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"RWI" branded watch by Luthier

Luthier

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:rofl:
Thanks, I already had a great laugh.
OK, let me beat you gently.
First - all movements in my watch are CHINESE A7753, so, you failed.
Second - my watches made on absolutely LEGIT factory, that make a few well known "swiss" brands, not on rep. factory. Fail again.
Third - am I absolutely sure, that there will be no faulty watches, or failed movements, or any other crap? Hell NO, and I never declared it. Saying "you can't be certain about the quality or how well your watches will hold up, the consistancy, the materials, the warranty, cases of faulty watches," is the same, like say- sky is blue, and snow is white. Another fail.
About my relatively small order ... Most (about 90%) of their customers are mid-eastern "businessmen", who buy hundreds of thousands of $3 watches, and fight for every penny, LITERALLY. So, when they get an order from american designer, who don't care plus-minus $5-$10, and present the designs they never seen before - they admire it, and they perfectly understand, that such a watches will have big future, and it mean way more orders. And pride for chinese is way, way more important, than ANY money, they're rich already. Seems, you have no any slightest idea, what chinese mentality is. Another fail. And the last one - yes, Mary is a dealer, but she knows watches way better, than you, me, anf 90% of our 60,000 members. Not only watches, but materials, movements, absolutely all the details of this business. So, one more fail.
Hide, mate, or I'll tear you apart, piece by piece. (Just kidding).
:D
 

mitchbaria

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Let me say quick before Sub rips your head off and deficates down your neck that I do believe IF the ninjas don't kill you and a watch actually makes it to delivery, it will be very nice, because I don't think you'd accept it otherwise.


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sub4me

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if you'd only know, how many times they re-built cases, dials, hands, and bracelet - you'd ask me, why I didn't drop this project many months ago. So, shoot out your opinions, mate, let's get a good laugh.

Your last post sounds like a big load of salesmens BS to me and I believe the above post proves they just wern't getting it right, Big Shock there. They really have you suckered in don't they??

Next you'll be telling us your making no money from this LMFAO, and your not trying to use the RWG brand name and it members to do it, you know with a captive audience and all.
 

sub4me

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Just got a few pics of my factory:







Your factory?? Has the Cali weed totally sauturated your brain??

I don't see any pics of your watch here. I wonder why?? I mean its your Swiss factory in China producing you watch to your exact specfications right??
 

Luthier

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That's all you can pull out from your sleeve? This is the factory, that make my watch, not the pictures of my watches at the tables of workers - such a pictures were posted long time ago.
Yes, many parts weren't right, that's why I said - they did it again and again, until we approved every part personally. From rubber midlinks to the case. Needed corrections were made. Are all the parts perfect? Hell no. Maybe, with big loupe you can find some imperfections. It's not a Patek Philippe factory. And yes, I do NOT make any money on this batch, I lost some money. And what the bullshit about RWG brand name? There's no RWG brand name exist. People wanted the watch with RWG on dial - and I did it.
Mate, you definitely have no any idea, what'd you talking about, you're just a punching bag with your theories.
 

sub4me

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:rofl:
Thanks, I already had a great laugh.
OK, let me beat you gently.
First - all movements in my watch are CHINESE A7753, so, you failed.

Oh ok so cheap asian movement then, slight improvement over the junk A7750 movement.

Second - my watches made on absolutely LEGIT factory, that make a few well known "swiss" brands, not on rep. factory. Fail again.

Yes, those well known Swiss made China factories, just got my Folex there.

Third - am I absolutely sure, that there will be no faulty watches, or failed movements, or any other crap? Hell NO, and I never declared it. Saying "you can't be certain about the quality or how well your watches will hold up, the consistancy, the materials, the warranty, cases of faulty watches," is the same, like say- sky is blue, and snow is white. Another fail.

But you've got your head of quality control Mary the replica dealer over looking everything to your specfications.

About my relatively small order ... Most (about 90%) of their customers are mid-eastern "businessmen", who buy hundreds of thousands of $3 watches, and fight for every penny, LITERALLY. So, when they get an order from american designer, who don't care plus-minus $5-$10, and present the designs they never seen before - they admire it, and they perfectly understand, that such a watches will have big future, and it mean way more orders. And pride for chinese is way, way more important, than ANY money, they're rich already. Seems, you have no any slightest idea, what chinese mentality is. Another fail. And the last one - yes, Mary is a dealer, but she knows watches way better, than you, me, anf 90% of our 60,000 members. Not only watches, but materials, movements, absolutely all the details of this business. So, one more fail.
Hide, mate, or I'll tear you apart, piece by piece. (Just kidding).

So your pushing your watch with box for almost $300 from a Swiss made China factory that specilizes in $3.00 watches?? Thats funny.:hehehe:
:D

Should we continue??
 

sub4me

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I do NOT make any money on this batch, I lost some money. And what the bullshit about RWG brand name? There's no RWG brand name exist. People wanted the watch with RWG on dial - and I did it.

Bullshit, I ain't buying your not making money, thats just a load.

Ok so RWG brand name is Not a protected name but I think you understood exactly what I was getting at. You are using that Forums name to hock your product. You know the forum you call a police state and the one you left.
 

bradj

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OH NO STAND CLEARRRRRR

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Luthier

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Sub, I asked Admin. about making watch with RWG on the dial, and I got an approval. It was at the time, when RWG was my home. Why I left is not your business. I continue to make this watch, because I promised, and I keep my word.
Yes, this factory make $3 watches, and watches with Seagull tourbillons, there's 5 facilities, each specialize on certain kinds of watches, let's not forget - they make money. So, we can continue, but you have nothing to say, because you have no any clue, what it is, and how it work.
About money - do I care your personal opinion? Sure not.
Good bye.
 

RWIGWH

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Luth, put my in for the tourby when you make one. I'm down with that.
 

sub4me

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Sub, I asked Admin. about making watch with RWG on the dial, and I got an approval.

Yes I know, you also had restrictions, and as far as I know you've stayed within them. You also did Not use entirly all new materials, wasn't the bracelet off the shelf or are you claiming you designed that as well??

Oh and why you left is because you said its a police state, so you made it everyones business, just to be clear.
 

KBH

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Bullshit, I ain't buying your not making money, thats just a load.

Even if he does, so what? He's the one doing all the work and all the financing.

Why's this bugging you Sub? You've got no skin in this game.
 

elconquistador

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Ever try an make a small batch of anything? General rule is the cost goes down by half every 10x of production.

No way this is a money maker at 300 units with tooling and fixturing for a tiny run from multiple factories.
 

sub4me

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Even if he does, so what? He's the one doing all the work and all the financing.

Why's this bugging you Sub? You've got no skin in this game.

I can agree with that, however theres a a bit more then meets the eye here. This has been tried before and it didn't end well.
 

sub4me

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Ever try an make a small batch of anything? General rule is the cost goes down by half every 10x of production.

No way this is a money maker at 300 units with tooling and fixturing for a tiny run from multiple factories.


In China theres always funds to be made. Labor and materials are on the cheap there, as are most products. Thats not to say everything coming out of there is crap but alot of it is very poorly made.
 

Chavezzito

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Just got to ask, so if it did not end well before does that mean that it will never end well?