Ruby's new 36

[drfcfighter]

Any review and/or critique on Ruby's new PAM036? This looks fantastic; no noticable recess pin, good crown, etc.

Also, JUST HOW BROWN IS THE 36 ANYWAY? CAN IT BE SEEN AS OFF-BLACK? At the risk of sounding like my wife, can the brown dial be worn with black straps and a full black suit? Or is it more the earthy type brown? How significantly different is it in layman's eyes compared to 111/177 black dials? Am I sounding like an assho' right about now?

http://replica-watch.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22575

 

[vaccum]

Dial is milk chocolate brown...I just finished reluming one of her 036 dials.......

vaccum

 

[Aquaracer]

Since I have both this and Davidsens watch- I can tell you- It's the SAME watch. Davisen installs his Dial and his Superlumed hands- other than that identical.

The new Daviden dial however has that wonderful 3D Sausage look- Ok lume on the dial- roughly double that of the Ruby version, and the hands have a lot of lume- But Ruby's is really the same watch without the detailed dial and DSN hands.

Certainly a relume job on the Ruby watch would get the watch into your hands for less money.

 

[red]

thats good to know aquaracer. thanks.

 

[drfcfighter]

Dial is milk chocolate brown...I just finished reluming one of her 036 dials.......

vaccum

How was the stock crown and pin recess on that thing? I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on this one.

(BTW, sending my sub today for your supa-fantastic servicing, I'll email you buddy)

 

[Aquaracer]

All of the Ti reps have the same crown- I have 6 different Ti reps- DSN, Ruby, etc- All same crwon- Just looks different in photos I think.

Pin is slightly recessed on all- cleanest on the DSN model- Sloppiest on the GMT I got from River.

I had a gen 176 for a while and the pin was ground flush to the CG and the cronw was nice and fat.

 

[drfcfighter]

All of the Ti reps have the same crown- I have 6 different Ti reps- DSN, Ruby, etc- All same crwon- Just looks different in photos I think.

Pin is slightly recessed on all- cleanest on the DSN model- Sloppiest on the GMT I got from River.

I had a gen 176 for a while and the pin was ground flush to the CG and the cronw was nice and fat.

Overall, what mods would/did you work on the Ruby 36?

Aquaracer = smart Panny fellow

 

[vaccum]

No problem with the cannon pinion. The criwn is thick usuall on the 036. Lume on the dial is weeeeeeeeak but nothing a relume can't fix.

vaccum

 

[takashi]

I would say reluming will make this watch totally a different breed. Perhaps if your watch is at the hand of vaccum, he can make the pin better (flatter) and also polished the spring barrel gear visible from the back of the watch.

 

[Aquaracer]

Yeah as far as mods all you need is a good relume and hands relume- Vacuum can do that for you- NOT a home handyman job- believe me I tried!

That said the Davidsen new 036 is an absolute work of art- Remember every time you see a Davidsen dial or hands with Orangey/Yellow lume it is NOT super torch-bright lume- it's about 2X rep lume, which is still about half of C3 lume. But I find the color, texture and the 3D quality of the Davidsen dial is just amazing.

I don't have a gen to compare it to here- But I have seen a couple of gen 036's over the years and I always am amazed by how much relief there is around the edges of the numbers- so obviously Davidsen got a good look at a gen in person. When you view photos on the internet the dial looks flat- The Ruby version has a slight bit of puff to the numbers but nothing like the gen- where the edges of the letters have a little "Well" around them- which is replicated to great effect on the DSN watch. The Ruby dial has just the slightest evidence of a well around the letters and numbers- so not realy the same look. The DSN dial also has the same kind of painted texture that I've seen on the gens- So while I know alot of people have criticized them based on internet research- I've seen at least 3 or 4 gens and the overall look of the Davidsen really is correct. My good high end watch reseller in town here had one just last month- I think it went for $9,000. I had my Ruby watch by then- and I was stunned by how different the dials looked- Yes the gen had yellowish lume- not as yellow as Davidsens but obviously off white- and the gen had a noticeable texture to the dial that reflected light- and a noticeable raised quality to the numbers- like they were impressed into the dial.

I'm sure a good relume on the standard dial- adding some height- could achieve a similar effect.

 

[skcheng]

Yeah as far as mods all you need is a good relume and hands relume- Vacuum can do that for you- NOT a home handyman job- believe me I tried!

That said the Davidsen new 036 is an absolute work of art- Remember every time you see a Davidsen dial or hands with Orangey/Yellow lume it is NOT super torch-bright lume- it's about 2X rep lume, which is still about half of C3 lume. But I find the color, texture and the 3D quality of the Davidsen dial is just amazing.

I don't have a gen to compare it to here- But I have seen a couple of gen 036's over the years and I always am amazed by how much relief there is around the edges of the numbers- so obviously Davidsen got a good look at a gen in person. When you view photos on the internet the dial looks flat- The Ruby version has a slight bit of puff to the numbers but nothing like the gen- where the edges of the letters have a little "Well" around them- which is replicated to great effect on the DSN watch. The Ruby dial has just the slightest evidence of a well around the letters and numbers- so not realy the same look. The DSN dial also has the same kind of painted texture that I've seen on the gens- So while I know alot of people have criticized them based on internet research- I've seen at least 3 or 4 gens and the overall look of the Davidsen really is correct. My good high end watch reseller in town here had one just last month- I think it went for $9,000. I had my Ruby watch by then- and I was stunned by how different the dials looked- Yes the gen had yellowish lume- not as yellow as Davidsens but obviously off white- and the gen had a noticeable texture to the dial that reflected light- and a noticeable raised quality to the numbers- like they were impressed into the dial.

I'm sure a good relume on the standard dial- adding some height- could achieve a similar effect.

I prefer the Ruby dial, but that's me. The DSN is nice, but the lume is an "off-color" that just looks funny to me.

I think the only other mod that would be nice on the Ruby 036 is possibly a Palp Ti crown........if anyone has one for sale :lol:

 

[Aquaracer]

Do remember the Palp crown is Beadblasted SS- I got one when someone on RWG was selling it- And I thought it looked "off" on my 177H.

 

[carnut]

Here is a pic of the 036 I just got from Andrew... IMHO it is not a suit watch. More of a white linen shirt type of watch...

 

[takashi]

@carnut: you have a not accurate rep of this PAM036. It's an OK watch anyway ^^

 

[hooligan]

Since I have both this and Davidsens watch- I can tell you- It's the SAME watch. Davisen installs his Dial and his Superlumed hands- other than that identical.

The new Daviden dial however has that wonderful 3D Sausage look- Ok lume on the dial- roughly double that of the Ruby version, and the hands have a lot of lume- But Ruby's is really the same watch without the detailed dial and DSN hands.

Certainly a relume job on the Ruby watch would get the watch into your hands for less money.

Not true. Unless Ruby's version has changed to include the 3rd set of numbers engraved on the back of the case (not to be confused with the caseback). My 036 I got from her about 7 months ago did not have the same engravings, so unless she has changed her stock, it's not the same watch.

Also, DSN's crown is better. Ruby's looks thick, but look at the close up of the crown in her pics. The inside edge of the crown is not beveled at all, it's straight cut. Only the outside edge is beveled, thus adding to the "thick" look, but not accurate to the gen watch.

Now the big question with DSN's latest releases seems to be if you'll get a decent watch or if you'll have QC issues. Assuming you get a non-defective watch, DSN's is the better choice, IMO.

 

[lumpyone]

i have the dvadison 036. gen 1. i am considering ordering his new dial (gen 2) ...and having it relumed. his lume is just too yellow. now that ive had it awhile i just don't like the yellow. also the crystal on this watch is totally crooked. 1.5-2 mm raised on one side..flush on the other, so i need to fix that as well. ( qc is definatly a concern with him)

i'm glad this thread came up..i've been wondering what to do about this watch. now i guess i know

 

[hooligan]

RBJ does a great aged tritium looking mixed lume. Look at some of his "vintage" Rollie dials in his area. He was sick, so I don't know if he's back at full tilt yet or not.

I'm sure vac could hook you up, too. I just haven't seen any examples of relumes from him that tried to emulate aged tritium.

No need to get a new dial, just have your existing one relumed as the color of DSN's lume is off on both generations, anyway.

 

[Aquaracer]

Since I have both this and Davidsens watch- I can tell you- It's the SAME watch. Davisen installs his Dial and his Superlumed hands- other than that identical.

The new Daviden dial however has that wonderful 3D Sausage look- Ok lume on the dial- roughly double that of the Ruby version, and the hands have a lot of lume- But Ruby's is really the same watch without the detailed dial and DSN hands.

Certainly a relume job on the Ruby watch would get the watch into your hands for less money.

Not true. Unless Ruby's version has changed to include the 3rd set of numbers engraved on the back of the case (not to be confused with the caseback). My 036 I got from her about 7 months ago did not have the same engravings, so unless she has changed her stock, it's not the same watch.

Also, DSN's crown is better. Ruby's looks thick, but look at the close up of the crown in her pics. The inside edge of the crown is not beveled at all, it's straight cut. Only the outside edge is beveled, thus adding to the "thick" look, but not accurate to the gen watch.

Now the big question with DSN's latest releases seems to be if you'll get a decent watch or if you'll have QC issues. Assuming you get a non-defective watch, DSN's is the better choice, IMO.

Not on the watches I have-

Same case, Same engravings, Same crown. Dial is an entirely different matter- Compared side by side the DSN looks like a gen- Not accuracy just finish quality on the dial- very impressive.

 

[carnut]

@carnut: you have a not accurate rep of this PAM036. It's an OK watch anyway ^^

That may be true... I'm a noob when it comes to reps and wanted 1 Pam w/o spending a ton of $$. Sitting at the beach in the before-mentioned white linen shirt having a cool beverage- I doubt anyone would know the difference (unless I'm sitting next to one of you or a Pam expert).

:shock:

 

[Aquaracer]

@carnut: you have a not accurate rep of this PAM036. It's an OK watch anyway ^^

That may be true... I'm a noob when it comes to reps and wanted 1 Pam w/o spending a ton of $$. Sitting at the beach in the before-mentioned white linen shirt having a cool beverage- I doubt anyone would know the difference (unless I'm sitting next to one of you or a Pam expert).

:shock:

Hey- You don't need to apologize EVER.

You like it- YOU wear it.

To get a decently made mechanical watch for a couple of hundred bucks or les is still a great value. If you thing isn't trying to get the ultimate-ultimate forgery- no need to apologize.