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Rolex 6694/1500 custom build

MaxPayne

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Greetings everyone,

I have a build planned, as a present, of a 6694/1500 with a Minnie dial.

First of all I have to mention @manodeoro for being extremely patient and helpful regarding my inquiry. You sir really are the best!

I managed to find a Minnie Mouse dial for a 6694on eBay, I am also looking into buying a 1500 case, which would in theory fit the dial.

The question remains, how do I go about the movement, as I see it the options are following:

1. Source a gen movement, either a 1225 or a 1575/1565, this would in theory fit straight into the case, and match all other gen parts, at worst the dial feet from the 6694 fial would have to be repositioned.

The problem: very pricey, and hard to come by, additionaly, any service on the watch would be tough.

2. Source a VS/VR3135, it should (emphasis on should) match with the crown, stem, hands, etc.

The problem: dial feet would more than likely have to be repositioned, and I have no idea whether the stem, crown, hands, date, etc. would line up in the case, and whether all of it would fit together seamlessly.

3. Go the ETA route, source a gen 2824-2 or similar movement which would fit.

The problem: Dial feet certainly have to be repositioned, date wheel overlay would be needed, as well as a movement spacer. Additionaly, there are no 6694/1500 hands available that fit straight onto ETA movements AFAIK. Another problem would be finding a movement spacer which would fit straight in without needing dremeling and sanding, and stem, pinion height, as well as crown position are questionable.

4. Whatever you guys suggest.

I’ve sweeped the forum for as much info as possible, but still have basically no idea which option would be best.

Looking forward to hearing from the guys and gals who know much more than I do!
 

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I’d go slow beat eta or dg2813. Then your next question should be where do I get hands to fit these?

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Go with a 2824-2 movement, a #2 movement ring- can't remember who- maybe rafflesdials.com and a DWO.
A set of Datejust hands from Clark's will work- for eta of course.
Date dials and cases are easy to find- mainly because people steal the 1575 movements out of them and build a 1680 sub or a 1665 SD.
 

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@MaxPayne ...

If the dial you found on eBay is the one sold for 260€ by an Italian seller I think you'd better ask for more pics before pulling the trigger
If the feet do not fit the movement you want to use it's always possible to use dial dots or to fix new dial feet at the right positions

IMHO there's never been any gen Minnie Mouse dials and all are aftermarkets ... so building a 6694 or a 1500 is just a question of which case you like the best ...
6694 will sit lower on the wrist so may be a better choice for a ladies watch
5500 sits a bit higher because of the thicker caseback

About movements :
- with a 6694 case you will need a slim movement AND a 6694 handset to fit it ... I can search in my part box as I may still have a DG2833 (handwind version of DG2813) and a 6694 handset
- with a 5500 case you'd better use a 2824-2 (some Asian ETA are really good for the bucks) as it will be easier to service and repair than a clone 3135
 
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I have a similar issue. I have a 6694 which I think has a gen dial (gold) and gen caseback and some seiko movement. The date wheel of this seiko does not align with date window and I would love it if i could find a cheap movement that aligns with the dial and the hands. I also need a new crystal because the magnification is weak. Which movement would solve this?
 

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I have a similar issue. I have a 6694 which I think has a gen dial (gold) and gen caseback and some seiko movement. The date wheel of this seiko does not align with date window and I would love it if i could find a cheap movement that aligns with the dial and the hands. I also need a new crystal because the magnification is weak. Which movement would solve this?

You could use a 25-108 plexi whose cyclop will align with the date window and magnification will be much better ...
You can get one on eBay

Swapping the movement could solve the alignment problem but the font would off ... even if you swap for a DG2833.
The best would be to add a date wheel overlay.
Check the date window positions on your dial (exterior and interior diameters measured from center hole) and search for a champagne DW overlay ... Raffles Dials has some nice ones.
 
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You could use a 25-108 plexi whose cyclop will align with the date window and magnification will be much better ...
You can get one on eBay

Swapping the movement could solve the alignment problem but the font would off ... even if you swap for a DG2833.
The best would be to add a date wheel overlay.
Check the date window positions on your dial (exterior and interior diameters measured from center hole) and search for a champagne DW overlay ... Raffles Dials has some nice ones.
thanks so much for these response. Would the existing hands fit the DG2833?
 

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thanks so much for these response. Would the existing hands fit the DG2833?
it all depends on which movement is in your watch ... could you remove the caseback and share a pic ?

BTW ... if your movement is strict handwind it's probably not a Seiko.
A part from those you found in old Grand Seikos, King Seikos and Lord Marvels, Seiko never made many handwind movements.

EDIT :
if your movement IS a Seiko the hands tube are probably 1.50/0.90/0.20
DG2833 hand's tubes are 1.52/1.00/0.17
so you could have to broach a bit the tubes on hours hand (1.50 to 1.52 -easy) and minutes hand (0.90 to 1.00 - tricky but doable) and squeeze the second hand tube (0.20 to 0.17 - easy).
 
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Okay so the movement is a citizen automatic 8200A. Should I just keep it? Can I glue on the date wheel to this existing one so that it aligns?
 

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Okay so the movement is a citizen automatic 8200A. Should I just keep it? Can I glue on the date wheel to this existing one so that it aligns?
Well ... Seiko 8200 and DG2833 have the same hand's tubes : 1.52/1.00/0.17 so you could swap the movements and keep the hands unchanged but that won't solve the problem unless you can source one with a "Rolex looking" datewheel ...

Could you post a front pic of your watch dial side so that we can see how much the date is misaligned ?
 
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First point - dial :
1225 caliber hand tubes are : 1.30/0.85/0.20 and , considering the fact that Miyota 8200 hand tubes are : 1.50/1.00/0.17, I would the handset is rep.
coronet looks a bit weird for a gen and printings doesn't seem to have much serifs.
So, in all honesty, I would not vouch that dial is gen ... maybe but maybe not.
A pic from the back side of the dial would help to make sure.

Second point - movement / datewheel :
If that watch was mine I would keep the Miyota movement if it works well ...
And take my chance to order an open 6 and 9 champagne overlay from Raffles dials ... low risk ($20 shipped) even if it doesn't fit

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The dial could be rep but it is close enough. Would the raffles date wheel just glue on top of the existing one?
 

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The dial could be rep but it is close enough. Would the raffles date wheel just glue on top of the existing one?
it depends if there is enough space between the Miyota date wheel and the dial.
The pic I posted is not a date wheel ... just an overlay that you fix on the date wheel.
Do not use glue to fix ... repositionable double face tape is strong enough and let you a chance to get a good alignment.
 

pauldirac123

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thank you so much. I think I have all the info now to get started with this.
 

Kristian33

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Greetings everyone,

I have a build planned, as a present, of a 6694/1500 with a Minnie dial.

First of all I have to mention @manodeoro for being extremely patient and helpful regarding my inquiry. You sir really are the best!

I managed to find a Minnie Mouse dial for a 6694on eBay, I am also looking into buying a 1500 case, which would in theory fit the dial.

The question remains, how do I go about the movement, as I see it the options are following:

1. Source a gen movement, either a 1225 or a 1575/1565, this would in theory fit straight into the case, and match all other gen parts, at worst the dial feet from the 6694 fial would have to be repositioned.

The problem: very pricey, and hard to come by, additionaly, any service on the watch would be tough.

2. Source a VS/VR3135, it should (emphasis on should) match with the crown, stem, hands, etc.

The problem: dial feet would more than likely have to be repositioned, and I have no idea whether the stem, crown, hands, date, etc. would line up in the case, and whether all of it would fit together seamlessly.

3. Go the ETA route, source a gen 2824-2 or similar movement which would fit.

The problem: Dial feet certainly have to be repositioned, date wheel overlay would be needed, as well as a movement spacer. Additionaly, there are no 6694/1500 hands available that fit straight onto ETA movements AFAIK. Another problem would be finding a movement spacer which would fit straight in without needing dremeling and sanding, and stem, pinion height, as well as crown position are questionable.

4. Whatever you guys suggest.

I’ve sweeped the forum for as much info as possible, but still have basically no idea which option would be best.

Looking forward to hearing from the guys and gals who know much more than I do!
Hey, I’m in a somewhat similar position, I have a gen 1500 case with a gen dial and I’m trying to figure out what movement to put in it. Would you mind telling me what you ended up using? Thanks.
 

MaxPayne

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Hey, I’m in a somewhat similar position, I have a gen 1500 case with a gen dial and I’m trying to figure out what movement to put in it. Would you mind telling me what you ended up using? Thanks.
Still made no decision on it, I’m hunting for a 6694 rep to complete the build, seems the easier way to go, plus I’m a pefectionist so I’d like everything to fit together nicely without having to mod parts too much, especially considering the nature of the build.
 

Kristian33

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Still made no decision on it, I’m hunting for a 6694 rep to complete the build, seems the easier way to go, plus I’m a pefectionist so I’d like everything to fit together nicely without having to mod parts too much, especially considering the nature of the build.
I see, thanks for the reply.