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Right. And the new Noob V11 (LMAO) is $520. Nearing Daytona prices. For MINOR changes.
Good grief haha!
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Review of Upcoming RXF New Submariner 116610 LN and Comparison
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Good grief haha!
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I thought the hands looked good (although my Gen spotting ability is shite admittedly). They look very 3D to me. What's the issue with them?
stanevo6
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That’s is the exact reason I went and bought it!
I don’t have the time or patience for getting into modding at the moment, so this ticks the box for me. The real life photos look good so far and for $400/£300 there are few people who would be able to call this out on someone’s arm.
I’ve seen guys posting fakes on Instagram and other people who own the same genuine model are congratulating the fake on what a great watch/shot it is!!
The sub is one of the most repped watches in circulation and most non-watch people will either think you’re wearing the gen (and have no idea what it costs) or they’ll think it’s a fake anyways.
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If you have a closer look between them and gen you will see that they are a bit off. ZZF ones are better. But honestly this one surprised me and a good dial is definitely a nice thing to have
Rol.exe
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Thank you JWIN36 for some really good shots and for your feedback. Lume shots are difficult and need the camera to be on a stable surface like a tripod and preferably setting your camera on a 10-12sec delay so that the camera stops shaking after pressing the shutter button. With the low light, the shutter speed takes a long time so any micro movement will show up as blur. Which of your lume shots would you say is the more accurate colour to your eye, the first one which is a bit greener or the bottom which is bluer?
While I am new to RWI, I have come to respect kennygconspiracy's view a lot so I cannot wait for his hands-on feedback.
In regards to IP, I think it takes a lot of mental gymnastics to try and state that the designs aren't stolen. In this game, we have homage, tributes, replicas, and cheap fakes, all of which take someone else's ideas to various degrees. Like most things in life, there should be a balance and to me, I know that replife is blatantly stealing someone else's design, but also there is still craftsmanship and skill to replicate the gens as close as possible on a limited budget and I respect that too. Having acknowledged the validity of IP in this world, I do have to state that IP laws have become ridiculous. It's very rare for anyone to have a truly unique idea and we have thrived as a society by building upon the ideas of others. Some colours, shapes, naturally occurring designs etc have now been successfully claimed through IP law and that is wrong. Due to the vast financial power of big organisations, we now see IP violations being dealt with thdough criminal law when it should be confined to civil. I'll stop my rant there but it is something I am passionate about having practised IP law for a time in a past life.
We shouldn't kid ourselves. We are buying unauthorised copies and this is unlawful and arguably immoral. Trying to pass them off as gen is disingenous, but there is also no obligation to state whether it is gen or a rep. Let's just accept the beauty of these pieces for what they are and value the joy they bring to us personally. While we may be able to convince some they are real, there's no need to. Most people will have made up their mind as to whether it's a fake or gen based on other aspects of who you are and what you do.
I've had people think some of my gen pieces have been fake and while it used to bother me, it doesn't anymore. Having said that, I am curious as to whether anyone will spot my RXF, be able to label it a fake, and explain to me in detail why. And even if they can, I'll appreciate their eye for detail, knowledge on the subject, and it won't take away from my personal joy of this watch.
While I am new to RWI, I have come to respect kennygconspiracy's view a lot so I cannot wait for his hands-on feedback.
In regards to IP, I think it takes a lot of mental gymnastics to try and state that the designs aren't stolen. In this game, we have homage, tributes, replicas, and cheap fakes, all of which take someone else's ideas to various degrees. Like most things in life, there should be a balance and to me, I know that replife is blatantly stealing someone else's design, but also there is still craftsmanship and skill to replicate the gens as close as possible on a limited budget and I respect that too. Having acknowledged the validity of IP in this world, I do have to state that IP laws have become ridiculous. It's very rare for anyone to have a truly unique idea and we have thrived as a society by building upon the ideas of others. Some colours, shapes, naturally occurring designs etc have now been successfully claimed through IP law and that is wrong. Due to the vast financial power of big organisations, we now see IP violations being dealt with thdough criminal law when it should be confined to civil. I'll stop my rant there but it is something I am passionate about having practised IP law for a time in a past life.
We shouldn't kid ourselves. We are buying unauthorised copies and this is unlawful and arguably immoral. Trying to pass them off as gen is disingenous, but there is also no obligation to state whether it is gen or a rep. Let's just accept the beauty of these pieces for what they are and value the joy they bring to us personally. While we may be able to convince some they are real, there's no need to. Most people will have made up their mind as to whether it's a fake or gen based on other aspects of who you are and what you do.
I've had people think some of my gen pieces have been fake and while it used to bother me, it doesn't anymore. Having said that, I am curious as to whether anyone will spot my RXF, be able to label it a fake, and explain to me in detail why. And even if they can, I'll appreciate their eye for detail, knowledge on the subject, and it won't take away from my personal joy of this watch.
That would be because I was drunk. And being over the top.
Medicine is a great example of IP. We only got to modern medicine by sharing scientific discoveries that were constantly built upon by many. Now almost all medical research is funded by private pharmaceutical companies where it is in their interest to not share, especially when the research doesn’t lead to a marketable product. That goes straight into the vault and no one sees it, yet there can be good information in that.
The covid vaccines are a great example of how medicine has gone so astray. Discover something that can quite literally change the world for the better and hold governments and patients to ransom over it. That’s really not what the profession of medicine was meant to be. But pharma doesn’t get held to the ethics of medicine, and now they’re running the show.
Anyway sorry for off topic and drunken rant. Back to the great bang for buck this is currently.
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Here you have a gen submariner august 2020 with blue tint on clyclop.
Awful weather today!!
Looks pretty good indeed. If it had 3135 I’d probably get one.
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We'll always have the "period correct vs. font spacing off" discusion... which is part of the fun in reps I guess.
And I don't need to ask anyone what to think, my wife tells me when I get up in the morning. :thumbsup:
Rol.exe
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Oh boy! I've been looking at a lot of gen pics and vids and even gen Rolexes vary so much within a single reference. There have been multiple occasions where I have seen watches compared and thought "Oh, that feature isn't right, it must be the fake" but it has been gen. Reading gen Rolex forums, I can say with a high degree of certainty that the scrutiny of reps owners is far more detailed than most gen owners.
Is anyone able to say what the weight of the RXF is?
As I watch this video on sub history and see 100m and even 200m water resistance back in the 1950s, I do wish rep makers would be able to add that feature as factory standard. The most telling test for my rep would be asking me to drop my watch in a bucket of water, then watching the panic on my face and my pulse reach 28,800bpm.
Is anyone able to say what the weight of the RXF is?
As I watch this video on sub history and see 100m and even 200m water resistance back in the 1950s, I do wish rep makers would be able to add that feature as factory standard. The most telling test for my rep would be asking me to drop my watch in a bucket of water, then watching the panic on my face and my pulse reach 28,800bpm.
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Nothing will happen to it.
I've been snorkelling, SUP boarding, swimming in sea, crashing into water all summer long with my 2 ZZFs.
Yes they will look like sh*t afterwards covered in sand, mud and dust but a quick rinsing or toothbrushing and they'll look as good as new again.
And that's what subs are made for.
Though yes not sure how well built the RXF is ZZFs take quite a lot of beating OTB.
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Not sure if this has been posted before, but I just found this on YouTube...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiqlnbOP4eg&t=411s
Looks pretty good to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiqlnbOP4eg&t=411s
Looks pretty good to me.
Rol.exe
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Thanks Kalev007, as I was writing my last post, that very image of you and your ZZF was in my mind. I've seen it on here before and both times it made me smile.
In the interests of full disclosure, I've always been a bit OCD with my watches and don't ever take my gens in the water or really subject them to the elements (the exception being my G Shock Mudmaster GWG-1000. That's been diving, out of a plane, and through 2 conflict zones (one of which was a marriage).
About a month ago, I got trapped up to my knees in quicksand at a secluded beach, which was a frightening experience. My first instinct was to protect my camera, phone, and gen Seamaster. I probably need to reassess my priorities.
In the interests of full disclosure, I've always been a bit OCD with my watches and don't ever take my gens in the water or really subject them to the elements (the exception being my G Shock Mudmaster GWG-1000. That's been diving, out of a plane, and through 2 conflict zones (one of which was a marriage).
About a month ago, I got trapped up to my knees in quicksand at a secluded beach, which was a frightening experience. My first instinct was to protect my camera, phone, and gen Seamaster. I probably need to reassess my priorities.
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Sounds a lot like you're Ethan Hunt from Mission Impossible or Michael J. 'Crocodile' Dundee.
Reps are good in that sense that they don't cost a fortune so you'll feel a lot easier abusing them.
Not bad for the price but that crystal is rubbish. The edge profile is dreadful which is a shame as the ar is quite good. At least they have the ability to stick a datewheel overlay on straight so far!
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