Will do, I'll head over to my watch doc and have him remove the back. I'll get a pic up later today. Thanks!!!
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Rep Rolex GMT movements explained
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OK, that's definitely a GMF SA3285 so you can proceed with a VR3185/6 replacement. Don't worry about the wrong engraving, although VR has started to engrave some with 3285 (the C+ factory Pepsi has them). You will have to swap the VR stem onto the crown, The SA stem is not compatible with the VR movement.Here are the pics of the movement:
You can look on Ali Express for the movement, I use vendor OULIGUAN a lot. The first gen VR (which we called VR3185) is cheaper and I actually prefer it because you have better access to, and greater movement range on the regulator arms.
Or for faster receipt of one you can ask awesome member @thrillofhunt if he has any for sale.
Thank you so much, I will do that!OK, that's definitely a GMF SA3285 so you can proceed with a VR3185/6 replacement. Don't worry about the wrong engraving, although VR has started to engrave some with 3285 (the C+ factory Pepsi has them). You will have to swap the VR stem onto the crown, The SA stem is not compatible with the VR movement.
You can look on Ali Express for the movement, I use vendor OULIGUAN a lot. The first gen VR (which we called VR3185) is cheaper and I actually prefer it because you have better access to, and greater movement range on the regulator arms.
Or for faster receipt of one you can ask awesome member @thrillofhunt if he has any for sale.
Oops, just reread that, and saw the stem crown part. Will that require ordering a different part too?
Meant to add - it just unscrews. You most likely will need to cut the new stem to fit your case / new movement.
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Yes I did see it after my post. Thanks for sharing and KJ2020 has a wealth knowledge in this movement.
Great comments! Besides the internal position of the regulator lever and stud arm on the VR3186, are there any other differences between the VR3185 and VR3186? Do both of these movements accept gen Rolex parts?
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There are no other differences. I prefer the 3185 version for easier regulating.
VRs will take a genuine auto wind and a few other parts but not a balance without changing a jewel. Nik is the onl watchmaker I know who successfully installed a gen balance in a VR.
Makes sense. Does VR make a true 3285 yet? And is there any difference in the direction the hands move when turning the crown in position 2 and position 3 (hour hand, time) between 3185/6 and 3285?
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There is no VR3285 out yet that we are aware of on the forum. The C+ Pepsi has a VR3186 that is engraved 3285. These fake engravings will undoubtedly be seen in other models from other factories soon.
3185/6: fwd crown = fwd hands (both stem positions)
3285: fwd crown = backward hands (both stem positions)
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Hope no one minds that i cross-post my issue with the VR3185/6 here as I think it's more a technical than a factory specific question (initially posted this in the CF Batman thread):
I bought my CF GMT in July and had it fully serviced upfront (and lightly frankened) by @Nikz19 (great guy, highly recommend!).
Since receiving it, I wear it approx. five times a week (office activities only) and it kept and still keeps good time. I have not tested the power reserve, but it seems more than appropriate (no need to wind it during the week, when I stop wearing it Friday evening, it stops at some point at Sunday).
However, few days ago, the movement (no, it is not the bracelet or the links) started making clicking/rattling noises when shaking the watch. It also got worse during the last days. I tried to catch it on a video, but it is significantly louder in real life and is also already caused by normal walking movements. https://imgur.com/a/HJZmHrE None of my other current watches (CF Daytona, GMF Datejust, GEN IWC Portuguese Chronograph) is making such clicking noises.
I have no watchsmith knowledge at all, but after research I assume that the oscillating weight has too much play and hits the case/movement (damaged rotor axle?). Is this issue slowly destroying the movement so that I should send it to @Nikz19 asking to cover that under his 1 year warranty? Or can I just learn to live with it (or at least try
) and have it fixed in a few years when service is due anyways?
Thanks and regards
I bought my CF GMT in July and had it fully serviced upfront (and lightly frankened) by @Nikz19 (great guy, highly recommend!).
Since receiving it, I wear it approx. five times a week (office activities only) and it kept and still keeps good time. I have not tested the power reserve, but it seems more than appropriate (no need to wind it during the week, when I stop wearing it Friday evening, it stops at some point at Sunday).
However, few days ago, the movement (no, it is not the bracelet or the links) started making clicking/rattling noises when shaking the watch. It also got worse during the last days. I tried to catch it on a video, but it is significantly louder in real life and is also already caused by normal walking movements. https://imgur.com/a/HJZmHrE None of my other current watches (CF Daytona, GMF Datejust, GEN IWC Portuguese Chronograph) is making such clicking noises.
I have no watchsmith knowledge at all, but after research I assume that the oscillating weight has too much play and hits the case/movement (damaged rotor axle?). Is this issue slowly destroying the movement so that I should send it to @Nikz19 asking to cover that under his 1 year warranty? Or can I just learn to live with it (or at least try
) and have it fixed in a few years when service is due anyways?Thanks and regards
Yes it’s probably the rotor. It’s a very easy fix (assuming it’s the rotor). The retaining clip on the rotor arbor has probably popped out. Any local watchsmith should be able to fix this. Or you should be able to do so (assuming you don’t have two left hands). Simply open the caseback, slide the rotor retaining clip out, reseat the rotor, and slide the retaining clip back into place. You’ll need a tool (or ball) to open the caseback, and a set of pointy tweezers or a 1mm metal probe to manipulate the retaining clip/slider.Hope no one minds that i cross-post my issue with the VR3185/6 here as I think it's more a technical than a factory specific question (initially posted this in the CF Batman thread):
I bought my CF GMT in July and had it fully serviced upfront (and lightly frankened) by @Nikz19 (great guy, highly recommend!).
Since receiving it, I wear it approx. five times a week (office activities only) and it kept and still keeps good time. I have not tested the power reserve, but it seems more than appropriate (no need to wind it during the week, when I stop wearing it Friday evening, it stops at some point at Sunday).
However, few days ago, the movement (no, it is not the bracelet or the links) started making clicking/rattling noises when shaking the watch. It also got worse during the last days. I tried to catch it on a video, but it is significantly louder in real life and is also already caused by normal walking movements. https://imgur.com/a/HJZmHrE None of my other current watches (CF Daytona, GMF Datejust, GEN IWC Portuguese Chronograph) is making such clicking noises.
I have no watchsmith knowledge at all, but after research I assume that the oscillating weight has too much play and hits the case/movement (damaged rotor axle?). Is this issue slowly destroying the movement so that I should send it to @Nikz19 asking to cover that under his 1 year warranty? Or can I just learn to live with it (or at least try
Thanks and regards
Thank you for this post! Just learned about the term "timebomb" from a member and had to research it.
Truly helpful posting! I was really getting confused, but not anymore after reading this post. Thanks! Looking at the GMT Master II 116710 LN 904L SS C+F 1:1 Best Edition Black Dial on Oyster Bracelet VR3285 CHS at the moment.
Looks like this is a proper one, with at least the correct handstack and a good movement, right? I went ahead and ordered it.
Looks like this is a proper one, with at least the correct handstack and a good movement, right? I went ahead and ordered it.
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