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Rare Submariner Uncovered at Estate Sale
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If someone can be that stupid to bid on a pos like this, I don't feel sorry for them at all. Unbelievable. :facepalm:
Why anyone would want such a monstrosity is beyond me, but sometimes I wonder if certain buyers are just buying fakes off eBay to get them for free, and then possibly pass them on locally to someone unsuspecting, or even just for the value of the rep. All a buyer has to do is file a "counterfeit item claim" under eBay's money back policy and once confirmed the item is fake, eBay doesn't require it returned, just wants the buyer to "cooperate in disposing of the item/agree to not resell it" whatever that means...
Since nearly all eBay's policies are stacked solidly in the buyers favor-not too much risk for them.
Admittedly putting out a few grand, however briefly and however little risk of ultimately losing it involved, just to get a free phony watch might be a stretch, but there's always somebody willing to game the system.
I would be far more leery of private party selling of a gen Rolex on eBay -and be worried out of my mind that a buyer could say I sold them a fake, provide a Noob or JF to whoever eBay demanded they take it to to show it was "counterfeit" and pocket the gen I sold them. Plus maybe get my account suspended and reported for fraud to boot.
Not saying nobody gets taken by a fraudulent seller, but wouldn't your first stop after spending a few thousand on a watch be someone (AD or Local Jeweler) who would authenticate it for you? And if not as long as you bought it using one of eBay's payment methods you could get your $ back under their money back policy.
Buried in eBay's "money back policy":
Counterfeit items
If a buyer suspects that an item is counterfeit, and there are strong indicators that the item is counterfeit, we don't require the buyer to return the item to the seller. The buyer agrees to cooperate with us to ensure the proper disposal of the item. In such instances, we refund the buyer for the full cost of the item and original shipping, and the seller reimburses us for the refund. The buyer may not sell the item on eBay or elsewhere.
Since nearly all eBay's policies are stacked solidly in the buyers favor-not too much risk for them.
Admittedly putting out a few grand, however briefly and however little risk of ultimately losing it involved, just to get a free phony watch might be a stretch, but there's always somebody willing to game the system.
I would be far more leery of private party selling of a gen Rolex on eBay -and be worried out of my mind that a buyer could say I sold them a fake, provide a Noob or JF to whoever eBay demanded they take it to to show it was "counterfeit" and pocket the gen I sold them. Plus maybe get my account suspended and reported for fraud to boot.
Not saying nobody gets taken by a fraudulent seller, but wouldn't your first stop after spending a few thousand on a watch be someone (AD or Local Jeweler) who would authenticate it for you? And if not as long as you bought it using one of eBay's payment methods you could get your $ back under their money back policy.
Buried in eBay's "money back policy":
Counterfeit items
If a buyer suspects that an item is counterfeit, and there are strong indicators that the item is counterfeit, we don't require the buyer to return the item to the seller. The buyer agrees to cooperate with us to ensure the proper disposal of the item. In such instances, we refund the buyer for the full cost of the item and original shipping, and the seller reimburses us for the refund. The buyer may not sell the item on eBay or elsewhere.
Ive actually thought about this situation many times.. and its definitely possible. I am sure that it has happened many times before.
I've wondered this myself, like for example, I'm sure if someone took a noob v7 sa3135 with a fake box and papers to local pawn shops, most of them would just see the movement and not really know what they are looking at and give like $3500 for the watch and then they go resell it and are out the money when it's further looked at. I bet that's how a lot of fakes turn up on eBay Craigslist etc!
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No. Old thread but still valid:
https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/sell-your-rep-at-a-pawn-shop.30365/
Pawn shop owners (who's livelihood depends on weeding out fakes) MIGHT be a hair below an AD in identification skills but probably not.
Point o fact the more I think about it Pawn Shop guys probably have mad ID skills and are way up there...list would be something like this, from best to worst:
1) Guido Mondani
2) @smoke
3) Pawn Shop Owner
4) AD
5) Jewlery Store owner
6) Rolex SA technican
7) The guy at Wal-Mart who sharpies my receipt on the way out
8) Me
9) John Mayer
1) Guido Mondani
2) @smoke
3) Pawn Shop Owner
4) AD
5) Jewlery Store owner
6) Rolex SA technican
7) The guy at Wal-Mart who sharpies my receipt on the way out
8) Me
9) John Mayer
Ummm. I'm a newbie and am currently wearing my new regmariner and my watch looks 10000x better than that bad fake thing! 66 bids???