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Not bad eh? These things can still be found apparently. Probably best Kermit OOTB.
Not bad eh? These things can still be found apparently. Probably best Kermit OOTB.
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RAF 16610, New 5 Digit Factory
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Wow got mine in hand and it's.... fantastic
The bezel action... guess it's a QC or batch issue but mine is clear and crisp with some slight backplay
No lume issue
The SH feels good except the keyless is a little loose but typical SH
It's pretty much blown my expectations, I was going to expect some modding and stuff but I can wear it OOTB
Video will follow
The bezel action... guess it's a QC or batch issue but mine is clear and crisp with some slight backplay
No lume issue
The SH feels good except the keyless is a little loose but typical SH
It's pretty much blown my expectations, I was going to expect some modding and stuff but I can wear it OOTB
Video will follow
Watch with sound to hear the clicks
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Nice would you also post the rest of the QC pics please
Would like to see the crown guards and crystal height, clasp etc
My dealer QC is literally ass and you won't see anything but I'll post pictures of this stuff laterNice would you also post the rest of the QC pics please
Would like to see the crown guards and crystal height, clasp etc
My clasp the crown is justified to the right lol
So is that a RAF? I can only find an ARF on Puretimes site, still a SH movement, where did you get yours pls?
Just ask for RAF on whatsapp sir, they're all available
For example, Steve :
Submariner Vintage 16610LV Kermit 40mm SS/SS Green RAF SA3135
Submariner Vintage 16610LV Kermit 40mm SS/SS Green RAF SA3135
www.theonewatches.ws
Nice! Think i'm going to move my Datejust on and get me one of these! 
My reasons are.... I have a 14060 and i love the case size but find the indicies a bit small for my old eyes these days, I like my 124060 and the maxi dial but it's quite a hefty lump on the wrist, so the 16610LV seems a good option and if I can't get on with the LV swap the bezel out for an LN... somehow though I think i'm gonna like it. Thanks for the link.
My reasons are.... I have a 14060 and i love the case size but find the indicies a bit small for my old eyes these days, I like my 124060 and the maxi dial but it's quite a hefty lump on the wrist, so the 16610LV seems a good option and if I can't get on with the LV swap the bezel out for an LN... somehow though I think i'm gonna like it. Thanks for the link.
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@Reaps thanks for the great pics. Yea on your video clip the bezel does have more slack than ARFs I’ve had.
The clasp crown stamping is offset like the original, early pre-raid ARFs. (I’m guessing old leftover stock parts). And we can’t overlook RAF’s “signature” crown to case gap — yes 5 digit subs have some gap, but it’s minimal. case lugs and beveling look correct, as does the bezel and insert fit. Overall great OOTB and id take it over any BP
The clasp crown stamping is offset like the original, early pre-raid ARFs. (I’m guessing old leftover stock parts). And we can’t overlook RAF’s “signature” crown to case gap — yes 5 digit subs have some gap, but it’s minimal. case lugs and beveling look correct, as does the bezel and insert fit. Overall great OOTB and id take it over any BP
Regarding the SH vs the SA movements... any discernible differences here? I'm assuming there isn't a VR?
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Hmm interesting then, the RAF is a SA and the ARF is an SH ..... $20 US difference.
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RAF doesn’t use SA, it’s SH. They both used them for a bit. ARF uses VR for the most part now.
Looking at a cheap BP Kermit on m2m at the moment.... states it is a 3135 but anyone know if it is a SH or an SA? I know it's the least accurate LV... I'm just dipping my toes in, but don't really want a time bomb! I don't mind the fat hour hand as I just cant get past the mis matched hands on the ARF
After breaking in the watch, the bezel action has become muted and soft like others have said. But I'm still enjoying it. I think I will reccomend RAF over ARF and BP for Kermit. ARF for LN, and BP for budget if you can overlook flaws.
Yes wondering if I should hold off the BP and go for a RAF, I see the watch you recommended from Steve says SA movement but I now understand this to be an SH otherwise known as a VR so not a time bomb? Bloody confusing!
Nomenclature is fucked but ignore what the TD says, Steve says that but the photo he shows, RAF shows it's SH, you can check this guide here :
Comprehensive Guide to Clone Movements Found in Rolex Reps
Change Log: August 25th 2022 - Initial version published on r/RepTime March 9th 2023 - Updated version published on RWI. Updated to include information about the new SH3285 found in C+ Factory GMTs and DD3285 found in Clean Factory GMTs. March 14th 2023 - Update to include a link to Steve's...
forum.replica-watch.info
SA and SH regulator arm have differences, also the "shock absorber" spring, look carefully
You will get QC photos of movement if you order from Steve you can confirm
Honestly you can get a BP, I'm just anal about my shit, BP is not bad for price and VR is very good
