I’m not so sure about a “maxi dial” LN. I think those early pics were just pre production photos. I think all the available stock will have the correct dials, aka maxi dial in LV, small indices in LN.
The Genault bracelet is modeled after the 6-digit 92700 bracelet. The stock ARF/RAF bracelet is actually pretty good for a 5 digit. The SEL recess isn't like gen, I think the end link is too thick on top. Another issue is the stock spring bars allow the end links to move.For anyone curious, a Ginault bracelet fits pretty well on this ar/ra. The SELs line up with the holes and leave a nice step down, just like on the Ginault. I don’t have a gen to compare to but I do like this Arf bracelet. It is thicker than the ginault bracelet when viewed from the side profile though, and the sides are brushed and not polished like on the Ginault. I’m not sure which one is more close to gen.
If that's the look you want, get an LV and swap the bezel insert for a black one.
The more i look at it, the more i like it
May not be "correct" but it definitely does look good.
The more i look at it, the more i like it
The case height is the same. The case is very close to gen, other than the shorter crown guards.
I haven't had time to play around with mine yet, but I'll try the thicker 2mm spring bars. The SEL spring bar hole doesn't look big enough for them though. The stock spring bars on mine are 1.8mm.
Yes, currently comparing it to a 114060.
I know exactly what you're talking about. It's the main reason I ditched the ceramic Subs. Lugs, crown guards, and slab side cases make them wear larger than the 40mm size claims. I felt a 116610/114060 wears more like a 42mm.Yes, currently comparing it to a 114060.
While it is indeed of a similar height it feels quite chunky on the wrist, even compared to my 4 digit that has a meter of crystal coming out of the case, as per picture.
The 9411-style Tudor also feels chunky, but perhaps it's just my feeling
Yeah the 14060m would be my favorite choice but i don't want to go down the rabbit hole of fully custom builds. Not for me.I know exactly what you're talking about. It's the main reason I ditched the ceramic Subs. Lugs, crown guards, and slab side cases make them wear larger than the 40mm size claims. I felt a 116610/114060 wears more like a 42mm.
I've had a 5513, 16610, 116610, and 126610. The 116610 felt like the bastard child out of all of the Submariners. Proportions are all off, IMO. A 116610 and 16610 have the same height, but the slab side of the 6 digit case is thicker because they brought the case down to get rid of the groove the caseback sits on.
The newest 126610/124060 wears the flattest on the wrist out of all Sub reps available. It still wears large and chunky though, and the larger bracelet/clasp are noticable. The 14060m wears the thinnest and flattest of all the Subs, but it's never been properly repped, and a franken build isn't worth the effort IMO. (I'll be going gen for mine)
Here's a comparison between a 16610 and a 116610. The dial, crystal, hour hand, and crown are all the same size between models. It really shows how chunky the 6 digits are.
Also, notice that the ridge were the caseback sits on the 5 digit is absent on the 6 digit. The 6 digit case sides got thicker to get rid of it. The overall thickness is exactly the same.
(Gen photos courtesy of TRF)
Thanks for the tip about that 14060, i would be very happy to wear it if you pay the 4k on my behalf!
Yeah, builds aren't for everyone. They quickly get expensive, and are harder to flip if you ever decide to sell. I saw get a 16610 to scratch the itch, and also try out the 126610. The 126610 wears much better than the 116610. The 116610 measures 40.2mm, and the 126610 measures 40.5mm, so it's not truly 1mm larger as the size advertised. The proportions are much more like a 5 digit, just sized a bit bigger. Some days I regret selling mine, but I never regret selling the 116610.
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It's cause there is no demand in China for them. We are but a very small percentage of their overall buyers. It's why there are very few makers for vintage watches, and only 2 for 16610s. Part of the 14060 charm is the smaller size compared to the 16610. I also thought about swapping a 14060 style dial that would fit the RAF, but it's not quite the same feeling, esspecially if you've ever worn a 14060.
I've actually never tried on a 14060, i just prefer the clean look of a no date over the date version. I thought they were the same size as a 16610...
