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RAF 16610, New 5 Digit Factory

GIG

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So what happened to RAF? Marketing BS. If it was ARF all along we wouldn’t be as interested, this is not a new watch or factory, it’s the same old ARF we’ve had for years, nothing new to see here, move along.

I believe they have made improvements. Dial, bezel and I think maybe even case shape. I'll wait till I have mine in hand to say for sure.

They are 100% using ARF bracelets and the same movement. Does that mean it's the "same old ARF"? I guess time will tell but I think we have a better product then the old ARF 16610.

It was not easy to find a 16610 ARF post shut down. I know I searched for months before this release. I was extremely pleased to see it back in production. I honestly could care less if they call themselves RAF or ARF.
 

GIG

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but no I wouldn't say

Yes officially it is arf when i ordered it hont always called it arf even though i sent him the intime link where it is called RAF

I compared you QC pics to mine and it seems like you case may be the old ARF case?

Disregarding the Crown.... The CGs on yours look stumpier? 🤷‍♂️
 

StreetFighter

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Meh. Looks fat lugged, super chamfers, stumpy crown guards, short base crown, flat hands, chamfered bracelet sides, crown stamped off centre on the wispy thin clasp, satin finish insert.. All same as before but they added a funky short crown with a case gap.
 
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Meh. Looks fat lugged, super chamfers, stumpy crown guards, short base crown, flat hands, chamfered bracelet sides, crown stamped off centre on the wispy thin clasp, satin finish insert.. All same as before but they added a funky short crown with a case gap.
Such an anticlimax
 

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Such spoiled kids. We get that it's reusing a lot of ARF parts, it's written on every page since page 1. It's still a very decent option to get a 5 digits submariner and a great base to franken. Hands are OK and not worse than VSF 6 digits one.

On the video from last page case looks ok with better CG than my JF, dial seems improved. Still a way cheaper and better option than vietnam or korean case. Coronet looks centered on the clasp too, and ARF bracelet is the best vintage option you can find (better than a 300€ Italian bracelet).

Biggest draw back is the shitty movement & crystal
 

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movement and crystal that in fact I intend to change
 

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Anyone receiving theirs this week? I'm fiending for some more photos of the latest batch lol
dave chappelle tyrone biggums GIF
 
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GIG

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Anyone receiving theirs this week? I'm fiending for some more photos of the latest batch lol
dave chappelle tyrone biggums GIF

🤣🤣🤣

I should have mine tomorrow! Fingers crossed.

Make sure you choose the right dealer if you take the plunge. You dont wanna get a bad batch of "RAF"

@StreetFighter I thought the same things about the chamfers, but I think its an illusion from the protective stickers.
 
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I’ve decided to pull the trigger and order one. Have been searching for one for a why now, so let see how it goes. Love the look of the 5 digit sub.
 

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I asked hont to change mine, that space between crown and case annoys me, I hope the next one is good I can't wait to have it and make some small changes to it
 

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The bracelet is better thank I thought, hasn't got the chamfered sides of the links that the old one had. What is the clasp code?
The date font some may say is too bold but the 2010 16610 I had recently was bold just like that.
Yeah, it has a few flaws but it looks good enough. Enjoy.