kk169
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PP Calatrava REF 6007A
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It is now appearing on Puretime: https://puretimewatch.io/calatrava-6...p-a324cs.html#
The color is really totaly off compared to GEN for which you have a metallic finish which plays with light:
- https://www.mywatchmart.com/listing/...-complete-set/
- https://www.watchprosite.com/patek-p...1516.11995666/
The REP is totaly dull in this regard: https://imgur.com/a/5avbn3r (direct integration not working for some reason).
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there is nothing that is going to save this release. lume is super poor. everything about the execution of this is subpar. back to the drawing board.
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yeah zero sunburst which changes the dial completely. zf is just flat. strap color needs to match dial. strap isn't even close in texture, etc etc.
all in all its a just a fail. very attractive with sunburst though.
all in all its a just a fail. very attractive with sunburst though.
They definitively did not get hands on a gen - which is sad. Super nice and relatively simple to replicate gen. Only calatrava in stainless steel, which is also nice for the rep. Maybe 3kf will give it a try.
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kk169
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thanks for this! this is really really flat of off...
I guess part of their thinking is that this is unlike a SUB or Daytona or Ballon Bleu etc where everyone sort of know how it should looks even if never handled a gen or rep. I have to admit I need to look up the 6007 gen photos to see it had a sunburst dial and deeper color, not to mention other flaws.
But the hard part of the rep game is that once we see the flaws it cannot be unseen and this ZF is just a hard pass! It's a pity as this probably would discourage ZF to have a V2
hey get it right and don't do a half ass job and i'm sure the Patek fans would scoop this. or another factory comes in and fixes all your mistakes and takes the money and your playing catch up. while they own the market.
but this rep won't sell any to to any patek fans. maybe on the gate.
but this rep won't sell any to to any patek fans. maybe on the gate.
makes you wonder how the factories are playing us in general. Over years and years of doing this and if you put 5 factories together to make the perfect rep from each of their strengths it would be done. The technology and skill is there but obviously with so many substandard reps released by half a dozen factories and new ones all the time it's like throwing mud on the wall and see what sticks. Obviously we are being played when the same watch rep over 3 years has multiple iterations from multiple factories and if only this one did what that one did and another did what they did but even years later they don't quite get it right. What a racket;
that is the definition of the rep game. one step forward 2 steps back. i maybe sales show because we are dumb we get v2 and v3 and then some good version later. as opposed to one good one.
what a racket eh? but I don't quite get the obsession with certain aspects that shouldn't really take away from the enjoyment of the watch. Like seriously obsessive things. I can understand dial colors and some functionality and maybe a sunken date wheel but in the pictures that I see most of the time they look fine. But others circling aspects from the back such as microscopic dust particles or incorrect etching or engraving is ridiculous. Do people actually expect or want or demand that these things are/or should be passed off as authentic? I almost think that there will always be the tiniest flaw and that they'll never make the perfect indistinguishable rep as it just wouldn't be fair to the rest of the real world LOL. fact it's probably why they're still allowed to exist and why I can even get a rep delivered to me without it being confiscated. As it's an homage to the originals but it will never ever be a true genuine. I'm sure that's the deal that they have with the genuine manufacturers anyways, so are allowed to carry on.
Anyways, I don't really don't care about some minor details; I just want the thing to feel like it's somewhat luxury, close to feel of original, to look good and actually work properly. And that should be anyone's goal: because there's never going to be an indistinguishable rep (and you know that at this point completely possible) so there you go.
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I think you'll find the watch companies just can't do anything about it. Getting reps confiscated at import may not be a problem for you (and me thankfully) it really depends on what country you live and how much resource they are willing to throw at something which ultimately doesn't harm anyone. They have more important things to investigate.
I think its more about planned obsolesce and perhaps being the first out of the gate with a release.
Exactly, gen is SS, but replica is engraved as gold
They usually do it the other way - most of gold Rolexes have SS stamped on clasps and between the lugs????
They usually do it the other way - most of gold Rolexes have SS stamped on clasps and between the lugs????
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You predicted the future mate. Check out these prices. Retail was $28,531.
https://www.chrono24.com/patekphili...its--id16525089.htm?SETLANG=en_US&SETCURR=USD
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Damn. I bought mine for $28k new and sold it a couple months ago for $44k. Should have held it longer.