also, the noob transformer case (16570 or 16710) with 2836-2 movement has the wrong tube height. Someone on repgeek built and sold their franken noob 16570 with yuki 3185; that watch has a repositioned tube heightand modding that is hard (i.e., it requires expensive, intrusive modding which could affect case integrity and water resistance).
Hence the reason why I still find my method to be the best way to build 16710.
Hence the reason why I still find my method to be the best way to build 16710.