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[PICS] Hublot Oceanographic 4000m Diver V6 factory Comparison GEN vs REP

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Hublot Oceanographic 4000m Diver V6 factory Comparison GEN vs REP

Hey all,

so this is my first comparison with Gen vs Rep, so I am sorry if it is not really top notch review :)
I had before the First Hublot Diver it was released, but I had to sell it in Februeary, then I have noticed GREAT rep comming out, so I simply MUST had it.

And now I have it finally :) I pick the V2 version (this from V6 hublot factory) instead the V3 version (the newest ETA version, different maker), because from
the comparison by Puretime, the strap is much much better quality, the movement is more gen like (also the gen has got chrono movement altered), by this the date
possition is correct, the case looked better manufactured, the caseback look closer to gen to me, also the rubber "cap" on crown. The V3 version just simply look a bit lite version of V2.

Here are specs of V6 factory version.

Specifications:
Movement: Asian 7750 Automatic Movement(28,800bph)
Size: 48mm(dia)x22mm(thk)
Dial: Superlumed Black Dial
Crystal: Sapphire Crystal with Double AR
Case: Brushed Titanium Caseset
Bezel: Titanium Bezel
Strap: Quick Release Black Rubber Strap
Clasp: Normal Tang Buckle
Functions: Hour; Minute; Second; Date


THe main difference I maybe somewhere read is that the rep is heavier then Gen, but don't know how much, the rep weights around 210 grams.
Maybe the middle of the case is stainless steel composite, because the backcase is for 100% titanium.

Lets check some pics and talk about it

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Definitely Hublot DNA

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Thick! But can’t help - the thickness of the sapphire glass alone is 6.5 mm.

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The screw back on gen is made of grade 2 titanium – extremely strong material, don't know what grade titanium on rep, maybe grade 1 ? :lol:

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This is a feature required for any deep sea diving watch. Of course didn't know if it works correctly on rep (I bet it doesn't). During the compression period, gas enters the watch just like it is absorbed by the human body tissue. And while the divers are kept in the decompression process, the gas which entered the watch MUST be let out (otherwise it would explode…).

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This model is, unlike most other Hublot, equipped with tang buckle only. I am a deployant buckle fan, but considering the purpose of this watch, it may be more secure as it has less parts and screws. After all, the wet suit and/or glove thickness may vary mission by mission and it would be cumbersome to change the hole each time. Also another special mention is that the straps can be detached by pushing the triangle marked button – just clip on/ off.

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It is the requirement by NIHS, it has to be legible from 25 cm in darkness. The hands and the flange have larger area and treated with SuperLuminova

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We have only rubber strap at the moment, no kevlar :(

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The button to release the strap :) works great !

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There are two crowns, both of which are screwed-in. One at the 2 o’clock is for the flange rotation (unidirectional). The rotation gear is disengaged once it is pushed down to screw-in, so no unwanted move of the flange. The flange crown is also protected by the “cageâ€. One at the 4 o’clock is for setting time and date, also screw-in type. The "cage" securely protects the flange rotation crown.

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The strap is spot on I can say, it is same quality as rubber strap from AP Diver V3. Maybe same supplier. I heard the gen is maybe more softer. It has got no vanilla scent.

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Simply monster :D

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The dial markers color is maybe a little more whiter on gen. Don't know really.

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The AR on gen is amazingly great. On rep we have a small hue to blue. The anti-reflective coating is very well done on mine.

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Find difference :)

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I am really happy with this rep and how close it is to the watch that cost 17 000 USD !!!! And we pay only around 448 USD (actual price from Marvellous Replica) and we can get that CLOSE replication !

Really amazing if you ask me :)

Oh and for all an information, the V3 prices are up, and they are the same price as V2.

Here are V3 QC pics

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Differences V3 vs V2 from the photos I see
- better movement reliability, used ETA 2824, smoother second hand, but not closer to gen, as gen has got as well chrono movement altered running always chrono
- but wrong position of datewindow due to different movement used
- better applied lume on markers and bezel insert
- colorless AR on crystal
- refinished case no sharp edges (don't think closer to gen) but overall construction looks weaker, notice the composite midcase not fastened fully together from the side on picture 4
- weaker rubber strap quality with not not nicely cut holes , they still have scrap rubber from molding
- not that deep detailed caseback like on V2, the font is just a bit too thin

some findings from Puretime first listings
- V2 is generally better finished, we can see the BIG factory craftsmanship from the V2.
- Inner bezel crown protector - V2 is loose and V3 is tight with a real "click lock" to the case body (that is true on V2 you can move the inner bezzel for really small micro steps, not like on AP diver where you have each minute click lock)
- V3 has a slightly longer strap (for bigger wrists) and they punched one more hole on the strap (for smaller wrists)
- Inner bezel lume color (uncharged) does not match the dial lume color on V3, while V2 matches, but inner bezel lume color (charged) matches the dial lume on V3 while V2 inner bezel has a weaker lume
- V2 rubber strap is much better than the V3 rubber strap


I know this stuff before I ordered mine and went for V2. Why ? Here are my points
- movement used / date window position on dial
- rubber quality
- case quality
- screws better fasten to the case
- Price at the time was unknown for V3, but now when it is the same price, I would buy better V2. If the V3 was 100/150USD cheaper, I would buy the V3 with strap from V2
- V2 stated waterproofed from factory to 100m, bigger oring on the caseback, good feedback from different members

At one point maybe someone will create ultimate Hublot from the guts of V3 and put it to V2 case, but that is likely unlikely :lol:
Hope you enjoyed my comparison and please feel free to ask if you have some questions.

I have also sealed the HE escape valve, greased all orings, and sealed back, and pressure tested to 5 BARs :) worked like a charm, (photo took when I was already releasing pressure)

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Thanks for watching :)

EDIT : I have found video of the GEN and review ! :)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bquzOGBrtvs"]Hublot Diver Oceanographic 4000 (King Power) Watch Titanium Limited Edition 1000 pcs - YouTube[/ame]
 
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Mr. Pap

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Someone spent a lot of time here studying the angles of the shots he had to take!

Nice review, you really like this one , don't you???:lol:

I hope you will enjoy the watch as much as we enjoy the review, its a pretty good rep, its only the small details there that are different, no big tells on this one!
 

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Thanks for the great post! Excellent comparison and pics too. You've got me very tempted!!
 

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Someone spent a lot of time here studying the angles of the shots he had to take!

Nice review, you really like this one , don't you???:lol:

I hope you will enjoy the watch as much as we enjoy the review, its a pretty good rep, its only the small details there that are different, no big tells on this one!

Thanks mate :) just I have found in work some gen photos and many people were asking me how gen it is, so I hope it helps, was a quickie , I don't like to write much...

And yes I like it very much and as well my friends :D

oh and taking pics, just looked on monitor and tried it with my camera, and praying that batteries will hold and they did :D

Thanks for the great post! Excellent comparison and pics too. You've got me very tempted!!

Thank you buddy ! :) Glad you like it and helped you decide :)


For all I am sorry for not more nature colors but done this quickie under lamp and a bit played in photoshop to get the white balance correct. I don't have light box or good camera.. Just old Samsung D60 compact :D
 

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excellent review and comparison. It's nice to be able to see the same angles of both the gen and rep at tons of different angles.

The diver is indeed a great rep.

Great job!
 

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Great review! Thank you.

I have been eyeing the Diver for a long time, but I can't bring myself to buying such a big thick watch.. It would be a shame to have it as a 'safe queen' :)

Wear it in good health.

PS: Give the guy one more award!
 

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very nice! i also was impressed how close to GEN the CAMERANGLES where! oh yeah the watch is way to big and bulky for me but then again im no bodybuilder ;)
but as a rep i would say it is extremely close.. i dont know hublot but just comapring the images i found nothing major that couldnt be light or angle,, very nice its exciting times in the rep-industry ;)
very nice review great job!!
 

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Great review! Thank you.

I have been eyeing the Diver for a long time, but I can't bring myself to buying such a big thick watch.. It would be a shame to have it as a 'safe queen' :)

Wear it in good health.

PS: Give the guy one more award!

Thank you buddy, happy you like it ! :) Don't worry mate ! IF you can wear thick watch why to stop ? :) I had also Oris Pro Diver, what had 360 grams with bracelet, and I wore it no problems :D They are probably the same thickness but the oris is about 3 mm more !

Come on mate, it is a era of big watches, and many would be intrigued what you have on wrist. I tell you, I didn't get this feedback from my watch last time I had U-Boat flightdeck Parnis homage on my wrist. Everyone is looking :)

And thanks :D
 

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Many thanks kenny for this awesome review
This encourages to bay this watch.
Very good and carefull angles of the pics to have a correct comparison. What a big job to make in this way !!
As alwyas very good job

ALE

BTW: your thread makes forgeting the watch !!!....Awesome rep too
 

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very nice! i also was impressed how close to GEN the CAMERANGLES where! oh yeah the watch is way to big and bulky for me but then again im no bodybuilder ;)
but as a rep i would say it is extremely close.. i dont know hublot but just comapring the images i found nothing major that couldnt be light or angle,, very nice its exciting times in the rep-industry ;)
very nice review great job!!


Thank you very much for your kind words buddy ! :) I tried my best, :D sometimes took 4 pics of one angle and pick the best one :) oh yes I believe Hublot is really afraid that Chinese are coming to produce better watches then they are for 1% of the cost :D

yes it is really thick watch, but I like to shock my surroundings with something different they didn't see before :lol:

Many thanks kenny for this awesome review
This encourages to bay this watch.
Very good and carefull angles of the pics to have a correct comparison. What a big job to make in this way !!
As alwyas very good job

ALE

BTW: your thread makes forgeting the watch !!!....Awesome rep too

Thank you Ale , really happy you like it :)

I am also very happy you liked the photos I take :)

Really BIG THANK YOU :) and surely buy it mate, I don't know if there will be any V4 comming anyhow :) there is not much, almost nothing to get better.
 

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:) I might as well follow your advice. My main concern is not the size, but the weight of it. I heard it is heavier than the GEN (not that I care that much..) But is it heavier than a DSSD?


PS: There are two more Kings in my box ;)
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:) I might as well follow your advice. My main concern is not the size, but the weight of it. I heard it is heavier than the GEN (not that I care that much..) But is it heavier than a DSSD?


PS: There are two more Kings in my box ;)
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naah 200 grams is not much :) Ploprof on rubber has got as well that weight and on mesh Ploprof has got around 250 grams :) I can't find official info on weights of the GEN model, I want to know as well that is the weight :) And it is heavier from DSSD around 20 grams I think.

oh and the Kings the ceramic one I have for waterproofing from a mate Mianos :)
 

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Many thanks. It seems like the only difference I can spot is that the date window is slightly different. Beveled on the rep and not on the gen, which is strange that the rep has a more detailed feature.
 

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Many thanks. It seems like the only difference I can spot is that the date window is slightly different. Beveled on the rep and not on the gen, which is strange that the rep has a more detailed feature.

Thank you Bomba ! :) (fantastic nick btw :D)

Maybe those are only light conditions mate :) check these two pics, both have beveled datewindow.

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Oh and for all, new information, the V3 prices are up, and they are the same price as V2.

Pictures of V3 from Puretime

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Differences V3 vs V2 from the photos I see
- better movement reliability, used ETA 2824, smoother second hand, but not closer to gen, as gen has got as well chrono movement altered running always chrono
- but wrong position of datewindow due to different movement used
- better applied lume on markers and bezel insert
- colorless AR on crystal
- refinished case no sharp edges (don't think closer to gen) but overall construction looks weaker, notice the composite midcase not fastened fully together from the side on picture 4
- weaker rubber strap quality with not not nicely cut holes , they still have scrap rubber from molding
- not that deep detailed caseback like on V2, the font is just a bit too thin

some findings from Puretime first listings
- V2 is generally better finished, we can see the BIG factory craftsmanship from the V2.
- Inner bezel crown protector - V2 is loose and V3 is tight with a real "click lock" to the case body (that is true on V2 you can move the inner bezzel for really small micro steps, not like on AP diver where you have each minute click lock)
- V3 has a slightly longer strap (for bigger wrists) and they punched one more hole on the strap (for smaller wrists)
- Inner bezel lume color (uncharged) does not match the dial lume color on V3, while V2 matches, but inner bezel lume color (charged) matches the dial lume on V3 while V2 inner bezel has a weaker lume
- V2 rubber strap is much better than the V3 rubber strap


I know this stuff before I ordered mine and went for V2. Why ? Here are my points
- movement used / date window position on dial
- rubber quality
- case quality
- screws better fasten to the case
- Price at the time was unknown for V3, but now when it is the same price, I would buy better V2. If the V3 was 100/150USD cheaper, I would buy the V3 with strap from V2
- V2 stated waterproofed from factory to 100m, bigger oring on the caseback, good feedback from different members

At one point maybe someone will create ultimate Hublot from the guts of V3 and put it to V2 case, but that is likely unlikely :lol:
 

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- Inner bezel crown protector - V2 is loose and V3 is tight with a real "click lock" to the case body (that is true on V2 you can move the inner bezzel for really small micro steps, not like on AP diver where you have each minute click lock)

does the gen has this "click lock" as well??

I also notice that the fonts on DIVER 4000 not as sharp as the gen
 

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Thanks for the awesome review! Makes me regret selling my V6 Diver!!