Sparky28
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You haven't got a link please fella?
My bookmark isn't working
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{*PCTeam*} SIHH2017 - Luminor Submersible 1950 3 Days Automatic Bronzo – PAM00671
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You haven't got a link please fella?
My bookmark isn't working
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TheDonSL
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They listed it as XF but the bezel looks wrong from the Seagull version.
http://puretime03.com/pam671-t-bron...-dial-on-dark-brown-leather-strap-p-9010.html
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Sparky28
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I can't thank you enough bro,
What do you think of the bezel/markings on this one?
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It's XF, Andrew also listed it as the same on his website. So XF Version 2. Aside from the movement, the new version has the corrected hands and larger hour markers on the dial. Would you buy one now, @PeterRei ?
One more pic of this beauty!!!
I have yet to see it with some patina
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This pic made me order the watch by ZF. I couldn't help myself.
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What is wrong with the bezel?!
One thing I noted (and I'm not sure if it's correct) is that the markers of the bezel are smaller than they should be.
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Which markers? The hour markers or the minute markers? Do you have a reference for them being smaller?
Hi Mysterio, I received some pics (not qc pics) from a dealer just to show me how the XF 671 looks like in "real life", and the hours markers look smaler (at least to my eyes).
The colors of the dial markers and hands lume are off (but probably because of light conditions). I asked for more pics in daylight to check this.
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The colors of the dial markers and hands lume are off (but probably because of light conditions). I asked for more pics in daylight to check this.
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Could you please send me one pic showing the watch face with the bezel so I can see the correct colors?
The pics I received are under terrible light conditions
Also, what is different of the XF v1 and v2?
This watch is so new and already has a new version?
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Sparky28
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The v1 had the 21j movement whereas v2 has the 7750 which looks a lot more like the original,I think that's what the differences are but I'm sure one of the guys on here will put me right
Give me 10mins & I will get you one of my qc pics
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Hi Mysterio, I received some pics (not qc pics) from a dealer just to show me how the XF 671 looks like in "real life", and the hours markers look smaler (at least to my eyes).
The colors of the dial markers and hands lume are off (but probably because of light conditions). I asked for more pics in daylight to check this.
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Still, how does it look smaller? Smaller in size? Smaller in height (meaning it does not stick out of the bezel too much)? Because to me the bezel markers don't need any more adjustment. It's the dial dots that are smaller and need to be made bigger (which XF did in their V2).
Sometimes, all you have to do is check the TDs websites and see for yourself what the difference is, instead of always having them handed down to you. Maybe you will come up with the right conclusion, or the wrong one. But at least you can discuss about it here rather than just ask all the time.
Anyway, just copying off of Trusty Time's sales advertisement, difference of the new XF V2 and the XF (and ZF) V1.
**This is the ONLY version with the Correct Needles & Lume Dots size
**The one on the LEFT is the XF/V6 Factory Edition with Correct Hands/Dot Markers size. RIGHT version is from other market players!
As you can see, the shape of the lume on the hands on the V2 (left) is different from the V1 (right) (red oval). Also the circular hour markers are larger on the V2 (red rectangle).
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Still, how does it look smaller? Smaller in size? Smaller in height (meaning it does not stick out of the bezel too much)? Because to me the bezel markers don't need any more adjustment. It's the dial dots that are smaller and need to be made bigger (which XF did in their V2).
Sometimes, all you have to do is check the TDs websites and see for yourself what the difference is, instead of always having them handed down to you. Maybe you will come up with the right conclusion, or the wrong one. But at least you can discuss about it here rather than just ask all the time.
Anyway, just copying off of Trusty Time's sales advertisement, difference of the new XF V2 and the XF (and ZF) V1.
**This is the ONLY version with the Correct Needles & Lume Dots size
**The one on the LEFT is the XF/V6 Factory Edition with Correct Hands/Dot Markers size. RIGHT version is from other market players!
As you can see, the shape of the lume on the hands on the V2 (left) is different from the V1 (right) (red oval). Also the circular hour markers are larger on the V2 (red rectangle).
You can see there's a massive difference between them when the pics are side by side,I didn't check his site but I'm gonna save it now if he goes into that much description between versions.
I tip my hat to him
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I saw some gen pics from ablogtowatch and the index color seems darker brown. XF seems to have lighter tone.
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That's the problem with pictures in the internet. Websites don't usually share their lighting setup so we can't replicate the colors accurately.
Hodinkee:
Fratellowatches:
Ablogtowatch:
Most likely this is exactly the same watch as Panerai doesn't make several prototypes to send out to media outlets for review. And three watch-centric media outlets, so they know how to take pictures of watches for sure. Yet, as you can see, three different looking watches. Nobody can make a specific determination of how near or how far colorization is without having the rep and gen side by side. That's just the way our hobby works.
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That's the problem with pictures in the internet. Websites don't usually share their lighting setup so we can't replicate the colors accurately.
Hodinkee:
Fratellowatches:
Ablogtowatch:
Most likely this is exactly the same watch as Panerai doesn't make several prototypes to send out to media outlets for review. And three watch-centric media outlets, so they know how to take pictures of watches for sure. Yet, as you can see, three different looking watches. Nobody can make a specific determination of how near or how far colorization is without having the rep and gen side by side. That's just the way our hobby works.
You missed out the word "expensive" before hobby [emoji6]
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I'm sure that it won't be 100% accurate with the colour,etc & all it's other foibles but tbh I don't care,I'm happy with it
I know it's a thinner movement & it definitely seems to sit not as high as my other subs but it's still a big watch,luckily for me though it's not a problem because I've got the wrists to accommodate it.
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