Hmm... not much love for this huh? I think the color combination of the dial is awesome.. Anyone taken the plunge yet?
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{*PCTeam*} Noob Factory 390 Just released [QC pics allowed]
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I just bought the kv 417 which is a very similar looking watch and the quality is second to none. Otherwise I would jump on this quickly.
im waiting for a Klockis/ALE comparison on this watch. H, Noob, KW.. who will be the winner??
But yes, the 390 is a great design. Will get a new one.. just dont know if it will be KW or Noob just yet (prob a noob. Im anal regarding the cg cutouts).
But yes, the 390 is a great design. Will get a new one.. just dont know if it will be KW or Noob just yet (prob a noob. Im anal regarding the cg cutouts).
Just wondering
What do you guys think...wait for the 127 fiddy or go for the 390.
And I am wondering....at puretime they call the dial Grey??....It should be brown??.....I am confused now :facepalm:
What do you guys think...wait for the 127 fiddy or go for the 390.
And I am wondering....at puretime they call the dial Grey??....It should be brown??.....I am confused now :facepalm:
I have both, the kw 417, and the hfac 390 in noob case.
They are actually quite different.
390 is base with gold hands, tobacco dial..... It's unique imo...
the 417, is something special as well....
I love them all!
Trick question. I have a vac 111n, so it would be the 390.
but if I had to choose between the 390 or the 417 as my only pam, I'd be happy with either. 417 I guess.
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You have forgot KW 390 !! More variables in the game !!
Now I have KW 417 and Hmaker 390. Next week we will have KW 390. I don't know Noob 390
Of course I prefer KW 417 better than H maker 390.
Next week I will compare KW 417 and KW 390.
The style is the same but 417 is more manly and sporty than 390 (but it is also classy). 390 in front of 417 seems more "sickly" more "sweet"
I preferred my 390 better than other PAMs, now I prefer my 417
This is a Panerai design matter nothing to do with the replicas.
Regarding replicas KW 417 has a superior feel gen-like by far, with an awesome crystal
The improvements of Noob 390 over H maker cannot be very noticeable, maybe better application lume on dial, better CG, and slightly better hands. But no changes regarding feel gen-like. I honestly doubt that Noob can have made a 390 which I prefer over my KW 417.
I will see when I receive the KW 390. Looking forward to see the cristal and even the lume application and compare with H maker 390...
ALE
C'mon, no maker touches the noob cases and cgs and definitely not KW!
Before the gen feeling, maybe Kw should work on the cg and lug profile, and that purpelish crystal.
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Before the gen feeling, maybe Kw should work on the cg and lug profile, and that purpelish crystal.
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With all respects:
I honestly think you really don't know what you are talking about !
- The KW CG is 90% the same as Noob. But roller support is completely wrong in Noob and much more noticeable than CG. And Noob CG PIn is placed higher (KW is placed to the right side). And Noob Crown is "FAT "but KW is perfect. See below pics
- Noob Lug profile is as wrong as KW is, but in other side.
As many times I have said, you are comparing KW with Noob, but you need to compare KW and Noob with the gen.
See in the pic below gen profile in orange, Noob is wrong in upper side and KW is wrong in lower side. KW has wrong position of the screw. Green line is bigger in gen and KW than in Noob
- PAM Boutiques gen has Purple-Violet cristal like KW 417
See a video of the gen:
OFFICINE PANERAI　Edition New York - PAM00417　ã€Â京都屋質屋】 - YouTube
You will see all that in the Case-set Review thread
Anyway you could work, as you said, in above flaws. But, what you cannot get easily is the feel GEN-like. And I can assure you, with many many years of PAM and watches experience (most likely more than you are old) that KW 417 has this GEN-like
Please inform you before posting
OMG! how many time lost in useless discussions
Sorry to be hard
ALE
Sorry, when I look at Kw I see a CG pin that is too close to the outer edge of the crownguard and same goes for the lug holes...
To each their own I guess. I understand everyone has their reasons to back a product, but I think this should be done without trashing the competition.
I'll wait for a kw watch compared with the gen, side by side and not with photo cut-outs (they mean nothing to me)... See the noob 111 and gen 111 comparisons on rg for reference.
PS: You gave me quite a chuckle regarding your years of watch and pams experience. I will refrain from any remarks other than I have yet to see any established pam experts back the products of a certain maker with such enthusiasm as you have shown towards Kurvasit.
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To each their own I guess. I understand everyone has their reasons to back a product, but I think this should be done without trashing the competition.
I'll wait for a kw watch compared with the gen, side by side and not with photo cut-outs (they mean nothing to me)... See the noob 111 and gen 111 comparisons on rg for reference.
PS: You gave me quite a chuckle regarding your years of watch and pams experience. I will refrain from any remarks other than I have yet to see any established pam experts back the products of a certain maker with such enthusiasm as you have shown towards Kurvasit.
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Trashing the competition?
For me Noob or H maker or KW are no competition, they are just makers
Almost all my reps are Noob (PAM and other brands) and If you read my PAM GUIDE you can see that I'm always putting Noob over all other makers, when the Noob product is better, as usually happens.
You are speaking again without info.
Concerning other comments I prefer just forget them
This is a hooby my friend and we are here just to fun and to enjoy our watches and reps. Don't turn it on a war.
Sorry if you get ofended, that was not my intention
Regards
ALE
For me Noob or H maker or KW are no competition, they are just makers
Almost all my reps are Noob (PAM and other brands) and If you read my PAM GUIDE you can see that I'm always putting Noob over all other makers, when the Noob product is better, as usually happens.
You are speaking again without info.
Concerning other comments I prefer just forget them
This is a hooby my friend and we are here just to fun and to enjoy our watches and reps. Don't turn it on a war.
Sorry if you get ofended, that was not my intention
Regards
ALE
Pffffff...to much time I see a post turn into a war zone what a BS.
In buying a nice PAM I totally trust the opinion of Ale!!!!!
In buying a nice PAM I totally trust the opinion of Ale!!!!!
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Thanks friend
SAD really SAD.
As PAM Section Moderator, I could (really I should) have edited and even to give an infraction for the “hurtful†previous post. But being involved myself, I preferred to leave it like that.
You cannot imagine how much time I spend preparing PAM GUIDE and reviews to inform people about the issues, advantages, good and bad things, researchs …
Always making studies, photoshoping, analysis, comparisons, consulting catalogues, consulting with dealers and makers… OMG
And always the more difficult thing: to decide about the final advice to write.
I have no need to get a conclusion. But I know people need some final advice and they are waiting for a useful advice or a definitive answer.
Usually people are nice and grateful, I receive countless encouraging mails and PM form members, dealers and even makers, but sometimes we get sad things like above post.
My job and opinions are clear and published !! , here you have my threads and posts to know about that. They speak by themselves:
- I have evaluated as Super reps many Noob, H maker and DSN reps in my PAM GUIDE, advising the purchase of these reps. Indeed I own a lot of them.
- I published two huge threads about the Last Step to the Gen of one of the best replicas ever made: PAM 111 Noob V3.
- You can read many post of mine recommending my PAM 390 H maker as my preferred PAM, the same with my H maker PAM 212 and 253 chrono.
- If you read my HBB V6 thread you can see my support to these group o reps from V6 maker. I own many of them
- Many times I have written about my preferred reps: the old HBB from H maker. I got several HBB H.
I have never received offensive comments about above posts
What is the matter with Kuvarsit watches?
Why am I receiving attacks for saying that KW has made a good rep, very GEN-like? However, I have received nothing when I announced good reps from H maker, Noob, DSN or V6…. I don't understand it.
Should I get some conclusions like my attackers do?
No, not at all. Many times we forget that this is a Hobby, that we are no professionals and we are here for and with pleasure.
Sometimes too I’m getting a little tired.
Sorry to need writing that
Always trying to help
ALE
Ale....I'm surprised also at the few posters who have taken for some reason a level of offence because you simply state that the KV watch is a good one. Based on your initial positive comments I bought the KV415 and I completely and totally concur with your comments. the watch is made at a very high level of quality that rarely does one see with rep watches. The mirror polishing, perfect construction screams that it's a high end watch. Like you say that does not mean it's perfect vs the gen, it's not, but it has that incredible gen like feel. So you are right and those that want to disagree should first buy the watch and see and feel for themselves before commenting.
Forget that guy Ale, with 27 posts he has the audacity to criticize you and your phenomenal contributions to this forum .. its practically humorous. Please keep doing what your doing and the rest of us members will enjoy your sounds advice and patiently wait for your reviews!
They are all reps. None will ever be perfect. Each maker has different faults and merits. Following that, people will prefer one over the other. That's how it usually goes.
Finally, do you know enough about Ale's experience to openly criticize it? I fail to see the reason for the personal attack. Relax...enjoy the "hobby".
Keep up the good work ALE. You're invaluable to this forum and hobby. We all ask for your opinions and someone has the nerve to trash it once you give it. Crazy.