Paying with VISA creditcard

[Anders Maach]

Am I the only one who wonder, why all the trusted dealers offer creditcard, ex. VISA as possible payment, but suddenly after buying a watch or two, the payment didn´t succeed, and they offer instead paying with direct bank transfer or bitcoin. You even got a 10 % discount doing it that way. So whats not to like?

I have lost over 1000 US dollars on doing it that way.

There is always something going wrong in the payment transition, or suddenly the payment gateway is meanwhile not working, so they can only offer me a direct wire transfer which is the most unsecure way to pay. If the watch doesn´t show up, your are lost and the money is lost forever.

It is very frustrating. At an authoriced Rolex dealer, I can easily pay a 30.000 US dollars watch with VISA. I even paid my own car with my VISA card with no problems.

 

[Jossé]

You don't buy from an authorized Rolex dealer; quite the opposite. You deal in illegal goods.

Would you, as an approved VISA payment service, find this acceptable? Maybe an explanation as to why there are often issues.

Solution? Don't pay with VISA.

 

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[Geonor]

Because using credit cards for illegal goods is a hassle for the TD. They don't want their name on any paper trail so they have to jump through hoops to get the money you send. I've always paid through bank transfer, never had any issues. I only use trusted dealers though. That may be where your issue is.

 

[DJ16013]

Hello and welcome to RWI.

Could clarify how did you lost >1Kusd in "that way"? You did not received a watch that was payed by bank transfer?

 

[Yuvalti]

Yesss this is so frustrating! It might be a tactic to avoid transaction fees or chargebacks, ugh.

 

[Kerbus]

I just got my card hacked recently. Got the new one so no more paying by card. Maybe I'll use a virtual card or try again with Wise. Frustrating to say the least.

 

[trustytime]

Providing a VISA/MC gateway is never easy for us Trusted Dealers as the brands police and lawyers are hunting down us and killing our gateways in the process.

We are also victims of scammers and its frustrating process.

I must say that if the real members and long standing buddies in here, they are more trusting towards the TDs in here and able to pay in whichever ways, even Western Union or Cryptocurrency and do not worry they will be cheated at all. I thank you all guys for that.

Of course for those who wish to pay via other payment modes, Trusty Time myself do offer many payment options as much as I can do.

Thanks and good day.

 

[Karbon74]

OP

Why is it so hard to pay using WISE and a burner virtual card? Like duh…how clumsy can you be

If you have Revolut, you can also do a bank transfer super quick

And don’t get me started with chargebacks

 

[MaximillianGT]

It is always interesting to see people whining about can't use credit cards to buy reps. Not hard for me to imagine the same people asking drug dealers, illegal gun dealers "Can I buy with a credit card?" The only difference is you won't get punished, and don't mind the TD getting punished by civil (brand police) or criminal litigations.

 

[TESLA760]

When I buy my Peruvian coke, I always use my Capital One Visa so I can get the points rewards !

 

[Art Vandelay]

When I buy my Peruvian coke, I always use my Capital One Visa so I can get the points rewards !

Now that's a 'line of credit'

 

[Geonor]

Your security is in the symbiotic relationship TDs have with the forum. TDs in good standing have a lot to gain by staying in good standing. It's not worth it for them to scam you for your $500. There's a much bigger risk on them of assholes doing charge backs. I use bank transfer and don't have the option to forcefully get my money back but I know my TD is good and I know RWI has my back if I keep my receipts. If you play by the rules, follow instructions and you aren't a cunt, there is very little that can go wrong when buying from reputable TDs.

 

[Kerbus]

I'll have to see how successful I am at linking a virtual card to Wise and getting it to work with the TD. Until I can hopefully do that buying goodies is going to have to wait

 

[Karbon74]

I'll have to see how successful I am at linking a virtual card to Wise and getting it to work with the TD. Until I can hopefully do that buying goodies is going to have to wait

Here is what you do.
Use the virtual card to preload money into the Wise account

Then when you need to pay, you use the Wise account credit directly

By doing so, you have a double layer protection plus you avoid Wise card fees

 

[Kerbus]

Thanks very much! I'll try that when I get ready to buy again

 

[Anders Maach]

You don't buy from an authorized Rolex dealer; quite the opposite. You deal in illegal goods.

Would you, as an approved VISA payment service, find this acceptable? Maybe an explanation as to why there are often issues.

Solution? Don't pay with VISA.

So what you are seriously suggesting, is that I should just continue losing thousand of dollars as I already has done earlier by making direct wire transactions. Also called direct bank transfers? You have zero safety if the watch doesn´t show up. What exactly do you think is the genious idea with that?

 

[Geonor]

So what you are seriously suggesting, is that I should just continue losing thousand of dollars as I already has done earlier by making direct wire transactions. Also called direct bank transfers? You have zero safety if the watch doesn´t show up. What exactly do you think is the genious idea with that?

Are you buying from the trusted dealers from this site? Or are you buying from Instagram etc?

 

[Anders Maach]

Hello and welcome to RWI.

Could clarify how did you lost >1Kusd in "that way"? You did not received a watch that was payed by bank transfer?

Exactly. However, I admit, that it was not a trusted dealer. But it just remind me, that when using direct bank transfer, you have zero safety for your money. And I lost almost 1000 dollars on that account.

 

[Anders Maach]

Are you buying from the trusted dealers from this site? Or are you buying from Instagram etc?

I am looking at Chazing Time and Intime Watch, they seem rather ok and are of course trusted dealers. They both announce on their front paige, that VISA and master cards are options of payment, so I placed an order of 1600 US. However, after plazing the order, it turned out, that the gateway was "currently" down for the moment for one of them. After plazing the order, the other dealer suddenly claims, that there was a "paylimit " of 850 US. On top of that, the shipping price was 130 euro from Hongkong (they are obviously using "triangle shipment" to Denmark).