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PANERAI GEN RELEASES 2022

KOT1917

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There have been 42mm submersibles for 7 years now, and at the moment, their selection is much larger than 47mm.
 

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Not too bothered when they're rep'd as long as its by VSF and they rep the 44mm White Dial Sub and one of the Bronzo Rads, that'll do for me!
 
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True, but who wants a thin submersible? ;-)

Hmmmm. Imo the problem with the smaller Subs is, that they can be very chunky, if they are too thick. But it´s all a matter of taste. I know, that many members here love these "La Bombas" ;-)
My favorite Submersible is the 692, that has imo the perfect combination of diameter, height and weight.
 

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44? Sure? ;-)
Afaik there are only the 024, 025, 064, 087 and 243, who are very rare ... and very thick ;-)

I think, to this list, I would add 199, 238, 092, 186, 252, 106, 170 but this will not change the essence of your message. Still, all of them are not really made, nor bought in one day. At the expense of thickness, the question is good; I don't know the thickness of the new 44mm subs, but I don't think they will be much thinner than, for example, the PAM024.
According to unconfirmed information, the new case is 13.5 - 14mm, despite the P.900's 4.2mm thickness.
 
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According to unconfirmed information, the new case is 13.5 - 14mm, despite the P.900's 4.2mm thickness.

Ok, that sounds very good. Thinner than the Luminor 131X-Line with the same diameter. I cant wait to try one at the AD.
 

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If you like, to understand the differences, the classic 300m bettarini submersible case is 15,5мм, 1000m bettarini already 18,5, 1000м 1950 case - 19mm, if I'm not mistaken, and the anti-magnetic bettarini is 19 - 19.5 but but I didn't see the measurements.
 
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Given the circulation of 30 pieces, and the potential for their availability, I expect to see them on the secondary market, at best from 20k
 
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Given the circulation of 30 pieces, and the potential for their availability, I expect to see them on the secondary market, at best from 20k

You are right of course. But wouldnt it be great, if they made a non limited version of this nice model and sell it for - lets say - 7,5k? I know, thats naive. They made the same bullshit with the great 382, which is far too expensive for most fans of the brand. But ok, thats business ;-)
 

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Judging by that last pic: VSF might have difficulties to get the thickness of the 44mm submersibles right. Same as the 42mm, where proportions of all the reps are off.
 
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Even if we hypothetically imagine that VSF is working and will deal with new releases, and even if it starts with a new 44mm case, I would like to note 2 things:
- The proportion of the midcase is likely to match any 1950 44mm luminor, such as the PAM1312, this is the only reasonable move on their part.
- The proportion of the 42mm submersibles is obviously and noticeably off, and even a look from the end shows a different shape, but it should be noted that the larger the diameter, the less noticeable the deviation in thickness.

Although in general I agree, miracles do not happen, and it will not be possible to make a copy of a model with 4.2mm movement P.900 using 8+mm P.9000.
 
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Even if we hypothetically imagine that VSF is working and will deal with new releases, and even if it starts with a new 44mm case, I would like to note 2 things:
- The proportion of the midcase is unlikely to match any 1950 44mm luminor, such as the PAM1312, this is the only reasonable move on their part.
- The proportion of the 42mm submersibles is obviously and noticeably off, and even a look from the end shows a different shape, but it should be noted that the larger the diameter, the less noticeable the deviation in thickness.

Although in general I agree, miracles do not happen, and it will not be possible to make a copy of a model with 4.2mm movement P.900 using 8+mm P.9000.

Sad but true. We have seen this problem in the VSF-models of the Luminor Due Range.
 

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Their idea of using rubberized crowns, from e-steel luminors of the 1950s, along with straps that match in tone but differ from the color of the dial and insert of the submersibles models is a move worthy of a rep by the manufacturer, unifying parts, contrary to aesthetics and conformity, in order to reduce costs and lineup extensions.
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