Panerai dial, sheen and reps

[IWC Doppelchronograph]

Hi

I have two Panerai reps an 061d h-maker and a noob 177n, and in comparison, a thread posted a few days ago I noted the dial 'finish' on both watches being different with a notable Sheen on the 177.

I really like the matter finish on the 061d and wondered how many of the rep dails vary for finish and which is more accurate for the 177 for example.

Anyone comment on how the matt of factory dials might vary and if the Noob 177 finish is correct ?

If so I might consider another black faced Ti Luminor, perhaps an 040 from DSN

 

[tonymission]

I notice my noob 111n has more dial sheen than the gen 176L which I own. Only certain angles but it looks like a tell to me unless the gen 111 is supposed to have that also.

 

[IWC Doppelchronograph]

Tks, I will see if I can find a 177 to look at in real life, the only problem with this is different lights. I assume the finish of the 111, 176 and 177 from Noob are the same, but I don't know !

 

[IWC Doppelchronograph]

Better examples of the sheen, you'll note the 177 has a lot and the 061 virtually none.

 

[Stromtrooper4]

That 61 dial is very impressive .

 

[slaughterer62]

You can reduce the sheen and make your dial more matte by cleaning it in a technical solution.

 

[IWC Doppelchronograph]

An interesting idea, are you talking about something like alchohol ?

I assume it would require removing the hands, as yet I haven't done any internal tweaking

 

[slaughterer62]

I used KontaktChemie technical spray # 99 called "Screen" worked with a micro-fiber clothe. It is gentler than alcohol. What is the use of having AR if the dial itself is a mirror of sheen?

 

[tonymission]

I used KontaktChemie technical spray # 99 called "Screen" worked with a micro-fiber clothe. It is gentler than alcohol. What is the use of having AR if the dial itself is a mirror of sheen?

Do you have any pics? Better yet, before and after ... I'm very interested in this.

 

[IWC Doppelchronograph]

I will be seeing a friends Noob 111 v3 it will be interesting to see if this dial is the same as my 177.

 

[ALE7575]

No friend needed
I have now in front me a PAM 111 Noob and a 177 Noob
Dial are exactly the same !!

ALE

 

[IWC Doppelchronograph]

I'll post some pictures later I managed to photo a gen 176.... It looks remarkably similar regarding sheen !

 

[tonymission]

I'll post some pictures later I managed to photo a gen 176.... It looks remarkably similar regarding sheen !

Ya I have gen 176 and noob 111 and think there is a big difference in certain lighting. I don't like the shiny black but it's only certain angles. I'd like to see the treatment of the dial with said solution...

 

[IWC Doppelchronograph]

well an interesting time, here is a picture of the watch (a 176, they didn't have a 177 in stock)

Overall the CQ was a little better finished brushed finish and edges, plus the near flush pin, but the 15 minutes of refinishing the CG has made the difference virtually nil. The watch on wrist

I did then manage to get a shot at an angle to show the factory sheen. This in real life looked fractionally less than the Noob, but very, very marginal. One again minor dial difference was the slight 'pin cushioning' around the numbers looking more 'pressed ' than machined. This did allow less hiding of the numbers at an angle, however I actually preferred the slightly machined look of the rep !

 

[IWC Doppelchronograph]

Can anyone comment on the H-Maker v2 and the latest Noob 026k rgarding dial sheen ?

I had pretty much decided my next PAM would be an 026k Noob, but given I am not particularly sensitive to the CG on the H-Maker, and I like the look of the H-Maker colouring, I may be more open to options here

 

[ALE7575]

Thanks IWC DC
Very interesting pics

I assume tis PAM 176 is last series, and then it seems that O PANERAI is making sandwich dials more pressed-like than machined-like.
The sandwhich dial seems even thinner in this way
I agree with you, I like more the deep sandwich dial with machined look

This dial has a look of sausage Boutique type.
See this pic:

ALE

 

[tonymission]

That almost doesn't even look sandwich to me. Not a fan, love the deep look

 

[IWC Doppelchronograph]

I didnt check the back for series, but this must be recent as it wasn't in the shop last time I was there. Which was a few months back.

I did take one more iPhone picture in shop, but not a great shot, I include as it shows the depth a little more

 

[tonymission]

6 and 9 is a lot different too, no?

 

[IWC Doppelchronograph]

Can anyone comment on the 026K Noob dial regarding sheen, in comparison to the 111 and 177 Noob dials. The gen dial looks 'matter' than the 176, so I am hoping the Noob 026K dial is less reflective than my 177 ?

I note it has a more engineered cut to the dial as well

A few pictures of the gen