PAM 1226 - TTF

[ellocity]

@JayBee0815 as always excellent review, all the answers I was looking for. The comparison between 47-44-42 is beautiful to give a sense of size.
Thanks again for your review

 

[jonnybaws]

Thanks for the write up JB! agree with Woundup, it looks good.. here's hoping SBF release one with some of the flaws fixed..

 

[JayBee0815]

Thanks for the write up JB! agree with Woundup, it looks good.. here's hoping SBF release one with some of the flaws fixed..

I fear, it won´t be that easy. Afaik around 14mm are the limit to the VSF-P.9000-Clones - and this with the Luminor-Due-Case with a quite thin bezel/crystal. I doubt they will manage to a get a Submersible-Case thinner than around 15,5mm. That´s great for the thinner 47mm Submersibles like the 692, who are 15,25mm as Gen. But the newer P.9010 and P.900 44m watches from Panerai are going more in the 13mm+x direction, which is too slim for VSF. The Gen 1226 is only 13,2mm thick. Much too slim for the TTF 7750-solution, but also too slim for the VSF-P.9000-Clone. What we really need is a Clone of the P.9010 ... but that´s a very big wish ;-)

 

[locvs]

Nice review.
Sadly, until p900 and p9010 are cloned, there will be no pam reps coming close to NWBIG status or super rep.

VSF had a great run for a couple of years with the p9000 clone - the amount of Super reps 44 luminors and 47mm subs speaks for it.

However the p9000 is gone. And honestly imo the p900 shouldn't be that hard to clone. Richemont are known for mass producing movements and optimizing production for mass, so we're not talking some AP or Patek level of complications. It should be doable and economicaly viable to see a p900 clone.

 

[weathermanGTS]

#ordered

 

[weathermanGTS]

here some merchandise pics from a non-TD:

 

[kaijukitchen]

Than

The eagle has landed ;-)
First impressions ...

Pro:
- The bezel play is good and precise (since this is the first model from TTF with a bezel, this is a surprise) though a little too loud
- Beside the obvious flaws, it´s a very nice watch with my "sweet spot" 44mm diameter

Con:
- The watch is way too thick. Unfortunately my new caliper has still not arrived, I can´t give you a number. My educated guess is 17,5mm. "Fortunately" the thickness is mostly a product of the fat backside and on the arm it´s no too obvious, that the watch is too thick. It wears at least much much thinner than the 243.
- The caseback engravement is simply rubbish ;-)
- TTF again uses a fake quick change. In fact it´s a normal lug screw.

So this is again a medium rep from TTF. Not too bad, but far far away from the Rep-Quality former factories.

Thanks so much for these @JayBee0815 ! I've always loved PAMs and wanted a white dial for strap monstering. Been waiting for the more manageable 1223 to be repped but thanks to your pics I pulled the trigger on this 1226 instead despite its thicccness! Mary been kept busy

 

[kilowattore]

Indeed it looks very nice on the wrist!

 

[weathermanGTS]

just for fun: as the 44mm 1226 was not available up till now, I got a 47mm hommage from aliexpress or etsy (don't remember anymore) somewhen in summertime. It wasn't so bad overall for that price, but I really longed for the 44mm

 

[weathermanGTS]

I just saw that TTF released the brothers and sisters of the 1226 as well:

PAM13991 Luna Rossa:

PN1391RU -PAM 1391 Submersible Quaranta 44mm SS/RU Blu TTF P9010 [PN1391RU] - $388.00 : Trusty Time Watch, Your Trusty Watch Shop

Trusty Time Watch PN1391RU -PAM 1391 Submersible Quaranta 44mm SS/RU Blu TTF P9010 [PN1391RU] - TTF Factory PAM1391 Submersible Quranta Quattro Luna Rossa MOVEMENT: Asia 7750 Automatic movement, 28800bph, Cut out design Rotor as per genuine, Modified to P9010 Calibre Look CASE DIAMETER: 44mm...

trustytimewatch88.io

PAM1229 Quattro Bianco:

PN1229RU -PAM 1229 Submersible Quaranta 44mm SS/RU Blk TTF P9010 [PN1229RU] - $388.00 : Trusty Time Watch, Your Trusty Watch Shop

Trusty Time Watch PN1229RU -PAM 1229 Submersible Quaranta 44mm SS/RU Blk TTF P9010 [PN1229RU] - TTF Factory PAM1229 Submersible Quranta Quattro Bianco MOVEMENT: Asia 7750 Automatic movement, 28800bph, Cut out design Rotor as per genuine, Modified to P9010 Calibre Look CASE DIAMETER: 44mm...

trustytimewatch88.io

 

[weathermanGTS]

and of course 17mm thickness as well

 

[Kup1712]

Pam1391 has a wrong crown, it should be blue

 

[weathermanGTS]

AND in addition, it comes only with the black rubber band instead of the Luna Rossa strap...

 

[locvs]

IMO HWF is overpriced for what they offer. A sign of the times. Two years ago this was the price for a VSF NWBIG sub.
charging nearly $400 for something that has so many obvious flaws is just a rip off. The difference in thickness is huge, crown, strap … come on… that’s a $220 rep

 

[weathermanGTS]

unfortunately they have the monopol on these Subs at the moment... and some were waiting for months to be released (like me )

 

[Marbe78]

I am waiting for SBF model, I hope the same that Pam 1116, first was TTF and after VSF/SBF release improved.
Crosfinger for 1226 SBF before summer 2023

 

[Alkoooon]

Amazing pics!!! Which TF supplied this to u plz?

 

[JayBee0815]

Amazing pics!!! Which TF supplied this to u plz?

Thanks. Every TD can supply this watch, its a regular model.

 

[Alkoooon]

In spite of the little differences from the gen…i see a great and brilliant work dont to those reps …its almost perfect and the pics are AMAZING …what i want more

 

[weathermanGTS]

received my 1226 today... it's really a "nice" watch. The thickness is really the only real blocker for that watch. It's wearable with 17mm but not as a "daily". And of course the regular strap needs to be exchanged before you put in on your wrist