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PAM 111 Noob V3->V4, KW–V6Fac & H maker - (**QC pics checking**)

yakon_88

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Mate, that are just lighting refractions. But tbh, if you and several others in this thread are so concerned about eventual smudges or dirt on a watch that clearly is fake and around 150-200 bucks, i would (for your peace of mind) suggest, going for the real deal instead of fake watches.You will most likely not have to deal with such happenings... (for around 25-30 times the amount of course). Otherwise, just take it, clean it on arrival and wear it for what it is...a copy of an iconic watch.
Very well said my friend. People have sometimes some incredible expectations wow

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Mate, that are just lighting refractions. But tbh, if you and several others in this thread are so concerned about eventual smudges or dirt on a watch that clearly is fake and around 150-200 bucks, i would (for your peace of mind) suggest, going for the real deal instead of fake watches.You will most likely not have to deal with such happenings... (for around 25-30 times the amount of course). Otherwise, just take it, clean it on arrival and wear it for what it is...a copy of an iconic watch.

Thanks for the insight! Admitidly this is my first purchase, and while I figured that's all it was, I figured I'd double check. TBH I don't expect it to be perfect, and glad to know it's just lighting like I thought!

Appreciate you guys took the time to take a look!
 

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What do you guys think of these 2 watches ? True V4 from what I've read I don't think so.
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PAM1983

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Again. The Lume color is light green yellowish


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Hi @ALE7575. I just got my v4 in the mail today and need eye for detail if this is actually a V4 or a mix of 3&4 please.


Thanks again for your help!
 

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is this pam considered one of the closest to gen? im considering ordering from BK and was wondering if that is a good move.
 

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Hi @ALE7575. I just got my v4 in the mail today and need eye for detail if this is actually a V4 or a mix of 3&4 please.


Thanks again for your help!

It is the typical false V4 with V3 caseset but acceptable OP engraving
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@ALE7575 do mine, do mine? Please [emoji3]
Just received today. My 2nd PAM.
I'm smitten!
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Without good pics form 6 and 12 hrs. is it not easy to tell the caseset, besides pics from 9 and 3 hrs. have no definition enough
Caseset looks like a transition model from V3 to V4
Crown is clear V3
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YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE

Without good pics from 6 or 12 hrs to can see clearly the upper part of the lugs joining the mid case is almost impossible to tell the version of the case
Some times good definition pics from 3 or 9 hrs allow to see the upper part of the lugs and the joining with the case, but usually they are not enough to the identification

I will not reply the consults without pics from 6 or 12 hrs or without pics to be able of seeing the upper part of the lugs joining the mid case

PLEASE UNDERSTAND ME

ALE
 

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YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE

Without good pics from 6 or 12 hrs to can see clearly the upper part of the lugs joining the mid case is almost impossible to tell the version of the case
Some times good definition pics from 3 or 9 hrs allow to see the upper part of the lugs and the joining with the case, but usually they are not enough to the identification

I will not reply the consults without pics from 6 or 12 hrs or without pics to be able of seeing the upper part of the lugs joining the mid case

PLEASE UNDERSTAND ME

ALE

Are the pics before mine the best angle? I want to make sure I save you time

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To help clarify if I can, when ALE means 12 and 6, he means a shallow angle view from 12 and 6. Imagine wearing the watch on your wrist and tilting it towards you, that's a shallow angle view at 6.


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This thread is starting to take the wrong turn...noobs going crazy about fingerprints and dirt, people not providing proper pics for ALE to make his judgment, etc.
Read the instructions folks! They are written simple enough to understand.

AND REMEBER - THESE ARE REPS. 1:1 IS SOLD AT THE BOUTIQUE. And it costs a tiny bit more.
 

ALE7575

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To help clarify if I can, when ALE means 12 and 6, he means a shallow angle view from 12 and 6. Imagine wearing the watch on your wrist and tilting it towards you, that's a shallow angle view at 6.


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This is what we need
Thanks
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Hi @ALE7575, any chance you can please tell me the quality of this PAM111 v4? Many thanks in advance!

No correct pics, but i can see a transition model V3 to V4
Indeed caseset seems a V3 with very nicely finished lug contours and edges in the same way as a V4
Movement is the typical movement fitting false V4 with Y shaped rep Incabloc and acceptable OP engraving
Crown V3
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NECESSARY PICS TO TELL THE VERSION


This is the best pic angle (from 12 hrs.) to tell a case version
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The best angle to tell the case version is from 12 or 6 hrs and as flat as possible. If you take the pic from a higher plane (more inclined) we will lose the correct vision of the upper part of the lugs in relation to the mid case cushion edge. Below the limit of the angle to tell the case appropriately. Pics taken from higher angle will not be valid
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Below the limit pic angle (from 4-5 hrs) to tell the case version
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This is the necessary pic angle (from3 hrs.) to tell the crown version. And sometimes to get more info about the lugs shape and case version
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VERY IMPORTANT
PICS FROM 3 hrs. (to see the Crown and lug shape) AND FROM 6 OR 12 hrs.( to see the upper part of the lugs joining the case) ARE COMPULSORY


Thanks for your understanding
ALE
 
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Pombok

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Great info thanks ALE, should be receiving my 111 this week and I'll post some shots of these angles [emoji106]


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Hey quick q. How hard is it to repñace the hand ib the seconds subdial? Or probably touch up the tip, as the tip of the hand appears to have a dot or part without white paint. Not sure if visible from pic. Could it be rubbing angainst the hour/minute hands?

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