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One Day Late - ZF 116610 LV & LN

mari115

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SELs trash?

Good luck buying a gen in that case.


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Lmao, it's not a ZF vs GEN problem, it's a ZF (3 years of development for this watch) for 558$ VS all the other rep factories who made an equal/better job for less than that and years ago.

PS, using extremes as examples is a flawed method in a conversation, i'm sure you can find extreme trash SEL in gens as well, but that's not the problem.

The problem is seeing those shit SELs after all the time they took to make them and after Puretime told them that they are trash, after all the other factories make a similar/better job for less money.

This is the problem.

Especially since it was hyped that much.

And bruh, that blue hue is disgusting
 
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mari115

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Furthermore, if you're expecting better tolerances on a $500 fake than this $3,500 gen then you're on a different planet.

This is not a gen vs rep problem, we aren't newbies and we all know that we can't ask for that much precision, it's still chinese reps we are talking about.

This is a Factory vs Factory problem. And also a huge thing was the disappointing hype that was brought forward.

"We won't have to hope anymore" my ass
 

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This is my take as well. Launch threads have always gone a similar way to this.
The best thing to do is usually abandon the thread and stop feeding the trolls.

Buying you a virtual beer.

also, Feeding the trolls is a lifestyle. If i could I would stop
 
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Absolute let down by ZF. 2 of their recent Marquis releases - The Hulk and the AP 15202 are both throw aways. Well, the search for a "good" ootb Hulk continues, until then I will enjoy my modded builds...

I think the ZZF V2S + a gen crystal ,is your best "out of the box" hope. I mean I know it's a further 300 euro on the crystal + modding it... but I think it's the absolute best we're going to get for quite sometime. We'll see what V3 brings but who knows when that comes out and it could always be worse!

Or do you already have a modded hulk?
 

mari115

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To start off: This is a prime example of when a watch fails to live up to the hype.

SEL’s in the TD photos are BAD.
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The clasp still has the huge gap that Angus said the factory would fix prior to release.... they did NOT.

The datewheel looks like a kindergarten student wrote the numbers

There seems to be a gap between the bezel and the case.

The crystal appears to be a typical rep crystal with the blue hue cyclops (they were supposed to have an awesome BH crystal that was very close to gen)

Sadly this is a letdown in my book. Good news is: there are lot of other releases coming!!!


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mari115

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I think the ZZF V2S + a gen crystal ,is your best "out of the box" hope. I mean I know it's a further 300 euro on the crystal + modding it... but I think it's the absolute best we're going to get for quite sometime. We'll see what V3 brings but who knows when that comes out and it could always be worse!

Or do you already have a modded hulk?

Wouldn't have been amazing if we finally didn't have to hope for a better crystal like we've been told?

Hope that some IRL of this will prove me wrong, but from the pictures it doesn't really seem that good.

Sadly it didn't live up to the hype. At least this was the first impression.

What a pity
 

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I think the ZZF V2S + a gen crystal ,is your best "out of the box" hope. I mean I know it's a further 300 euro on the crystal + modding it... but I think it's the absolute best we're going to get for quite sometime. We'll see what V3 brings but who knows when that comes out and it could always be worse!

Or do you already have a modded hulk?

Agree!! Yeah, I do have a heavily modded build ;) All I need is a dial that goes dark black in sunburst (don't want to go gen), was hoping ZF delivers that but TD pics say otherwise. maybe real life QC is better.
 
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mari115

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Well, to be honest, that's more your problem. Everything gets hyped.

I don't know about you but i've never heard of a TD telling us that we won't have to hope anymore for a good crystal with BH and Halo effect like for this release. So this really looked like the time we didn't need to double the cost of a rep just to add 350$ worth of glass (oh wait, not doubling anymore, since the rep is now priced at 558$).

You can hype the noob 4130 because it's a major innovation.

You can hype the VR3135 and the SH3186 because they are major innovations as well.

You can hype VSF's new omegas with clone movement because they are a bang for the buck, closest omega reps ever with some kind of clone movement as well.

You can also hype the best crystal with best BH effect ever seen before.

But you have to live up to that, otherwise it looks like a sterile marketing strategy that only shows the greed that's behind it. ESPECIALLY if it then turns out to be one of if not the most expensive Submariner ever made, but with almost nothing to justify the price increase.

Again, i hope i'm wrong, but that blue hue isn't making me change my mind that easily. Let's see some IRL pictures then.
 

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I don't know about you but i've never heard of a TD telling us that we won't have to hope anymore for a good crystal with BH and Halo effect like for this release. So this really looked like the time we didn't need to double the cost of a rep just to add 350$ worth of glass.

Step back from the edge dude. It's a only a fake Submariner.
 

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The ZF had the most hype thus far and might end up being the worst of all the new releases. We won't know more until we see pictures of a consumer product - personally I won't be taking the plunge, but someone will - hopefully they'll be nice enough to share their experience.

RXF/VSF have proven to be do nice work for a reasonable price. They did great with the LN, how well they do with the LV (harder to rep) only time will tell.

I think there is hope for the ARF v4 - in my opinion their metalwork is great on some of their reps.

ZZF had a fantastic release with their hulk, so I think their V3 release has potential as well.

The key is simple: be patient. Wait and see the actual products, then decide. Hype doesn’t matter, end results do!


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This

100% agreed

Keep your cash guys and wait the new releases.
 
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Step back from the edge dude. It's a only a fake Submariner.

How are people really asking for a 500 dollar ish rep to be a gen 1:1. I can guarantee that if one of these reps was show cased at a Rolex autherized dealer and was made to appear as gen no one here would be able to see that it was a replica.

Now think of this coupled with the fact that its going to be on your wrist. No one will ever know its a replica. In fact, it is such high quality rep that even if you were to give to someone to hold or try on they still would not be able to see its a rep
 

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How are people really asking for a 500 dollar ish rep to be a gen 1:1. I can guarantee that if one of these reps was show cased at a Rolex autherized dealer and was made to appear as gen no one here would be able to see that it was a replica.

Now think of this coupled with the fact that its going to be on your wrist. No one will ever know its a replica. In fact, it is such high quality rep that even if you were to give to someone to hold or try on they still would not be able to see its a rep

Bro i'm really losing my shit.

How can't you understand?

Here, i'll quote myself so you can understand better:

Lmao, it's not a ZF vs GEN problem, it's a ZF (3 years of development for this watch) for 558$ VS all the other rep factories who made an equal/better job for less than that and years ago.

PS, using extremes as examples is a flawed method in a conversation, i'm sure you can find extreme trash SEL in gens as well, but that's not the problem.

The problem is seeing those shit SELs after all the time they took to make it and after Puretime told them that they are trash, after all the other factories make a similar/better job for less money.

This is the problem.

Especially since it was hyped that much.

And bruh, that blue hue is disgusting


This is not about wanting a 500$ rep to be 1:1 to a gen.

This is about a totally unjustified rise in price for something that was done similarly, if not better, by other factories. And this was also hyped like there is no tomorrow.

And no, this is not "my problem", it's a let down for everyone here.
 

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Now think of this coupled with the fact that its going to be on your wrist. No one will ever know its a replica. In fact, it is such high quality rep that even if you were to give to someone to hold or try on they still would not be able to see its a rep


Oh and yeah, if you wanna use that logic any other release of the last 2 years works perfectly, for around 200$ less than this disappointment
 

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Oh and yeah, if you wanna use that logic any other release of the last 2 years works perfectly, for around 200$ less than this disappointment

FINE Ill use a different logic then. THE BIGGEST TELL OF THIS REP IS YOU!

Do you know why?! BECAUSE A WISE MAN ONCE SAID:

"What's the biggest tell in a rep?"

"You!"



Sound familiar
 
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