OME Maker 5712 New release

[Lemans24h]

All the OME advert says is that they have CNC engraved the front of the case, it doesn’t say it is a full CNC case. They don’t mention PPF of course but now it’s in people’s hands it’s clearly a modified and engraved PPF case.

It looks to be well done for the addition cost they charge, it’s a worthwhile entry level mod selection for those who don’t want to go for the $1700 Chazingtime version or a custom mod. The main issue is the need to modify the pinions, seems such a silly mistake to make

 

[DalePilledToo]

All the OME advert says is that they have CNC engraved the front of the case, it doesn’t say it is a full CNC case. They don’t mention PPF of course but now it’s in people’s hands it’s clearly a modified and engraved PPF case.

It looks to be well done for the addition cost they charge, it’s a worthwhile entry level mod selection for those who don’t want to go for the $1700 Chazingtime version or a custom mod. The main issue is the need to modify the pinions, seems such a silly mistake to make

Well yeah, sw needs to fix the 6 index and it would be great

 

[JaceBeleren]

After wearing the watch for a few days I've come to like it more and more over time. The thickness issue is bothering me less and less (I've never held a gen so don't know how far off it is exactly) but even at 9mm it's still pretty svelte overall and easily goes under a cuff. Overall I'd say it was worth the money.

 

[Harolds]

Which one would be better to buy and add a few upgrades? OME or the new v4 with engravings. I was going OME until dealer showed the new v4 looks like the bezel is thinner than OME. OME appears fatter in pictures and the engravings look better on the v4? Has anyone seen both and can give their opinion?

 

[jakehd]

Which one would be better to buy and add a few upgrades? OME or the new v4 with engravings. I was going OME until dealer showed the new v4 looks like the bezel is thinner than OME. OME appears fatter in pictures and the engravings look better on the v4? Has anyone seen both and can give their opinion?

Do you have pictures you can share?

 

[JaceBeleren]

A big part of me thinks the PPFv4 was specifically created in reaction to the OME. PPF realized they couldn't get away with the standard they'd been feeding us before because now there was something better out there so to avoid losing market share they had to release the improved watch they were sitting on all along.

 

[jakehd]

Well, first it's not $300 more. Looking at AMOWatch, OME 5712 is exactly $116 more than the PPF. (I gather you must be looking at Puretime, which sells the same OME watch without actually calling it OME for some ridiculous amount, but it's far less everywhere else I've looked.)

For that extra $116 you get a much better moon disk than even the new v4 PPF has, the dial is better (people are saying it's an SWF dial, but whatever it may be, it looks better), the lugs are better, the pinions look better except for the slightly large power reserve pinion, the movement engraving used to be much better but PPF may have somewhat improved that in v4. Some have said the hands are better, but I don't know enough to tell. After a bunch of reading, I ordered the OME with the pinions modified (for about the same price as Puretime sells the base PPF v4) because the mods are very similar to the modified 5712 Chazingtime is selling in the $1700 range, albeit the movement plates are not as detailed.

That's all just for clarification because you make it sound like someone paid $300 solely for a 1:1 thickness watch when actually the mods are worth way more than the $116 more (or less) anyone that shops around would pay for this watch. We can disagree whether .3 or .5 mm makes any real-life difference, but saying that "people could be wasting money and not getting any improvements" is completely misleading under the circumstances.

I couldn't find to much info on the changes from PPF v3 to v4. Is it just movement that has been engraved?

 

[fletch512]

I couldn't find to much info on the changes from PPF v3 to v4. Is it just movement that has been engraved?

The moon disk appears to be a darker blue. The previous light blue color was way off.

 

[fletch512]

Which one would be better to buy and add a few upgrades? OME or the new v4 with engravings. I was going OME until dealer showed the new v4 looks like the bezel is thinner than OME. OME appears fatter in pictures and the engravings look better on the v4? Has anyone seen both and can give their opinion?

Here are some pictures comparing the OME and PPF that I pulled down from chazingtime. As an aside, it's hard to find comparable pictures for these watches as some dealers don't show OME on their website, others don't have the most up-to-date pictures (even Chazingtime doesn't have pics of the latest OME movement plates that are in this thread at pages 3-4), and it looks like AMOWatch posted pictures of the OME 5712 on the PPF v4 sales page. In-hand pictures would be better since the dial may change colors under various light conditions, but it is what it is.

OME front:


PPF front:


OME side:


PPF side:


OME back engraving:


PPF back engracing:

 

[fletch512]

From the above, the moon disk on PPF v4 still doesn't look quite right. The moon and stars seem to dark and the blue background still seems to be too light. Who knows, could be attributed to studio lighting. PPF v4 doesn't seem to have the correct pinion caps, so that needs to be fixed. Same for OME power reserve pinion. Side view looks pretty similar, with OME maybe having more sharp "eagle beak" lugs. I like the deeper engraving on PPF v4 better, though the new OME update adding the missing jewel next to the balance wheel is more correct. The 6 o'clock marker is different from these pics, and I don't think either is quite right.

At arms-length, I'm sure both are great. At chazingtime, the difference between the two is only $70, which makes the choice a no-brainer.

 

[DalePilledToo]

From the above, the moon disk on PPF v4 still doesn't look quite right. The moon and stars seem to dark and the blue background still seems to be too light. Who knows, could be attributed to studio lighting. PPF v4 doesn't seem to have the correct pinion caps, so that needs to be fixed. Same for OME power reserve pinion. Side view looks pretty similar, with OME maybe having more sharp "eagle beak" lugs. I like the deeper engraving on PPF v4 better, though the new OME update adding the missing jewel next to the balance wheel is more correct. The 6 o'clock marker is different from these pics, and I don't think either is quite right.

At arms-length, I'm sure both are great. At chazingtime, the difference between the two is only $70, which makes the choice a no-brainer.

Dont forget the dial being shit and the lume too green.

 

[marcoxxxx84]

Both movements seems old version since there is a new one as already mentioned in this thread

 

[DalePilledToo]

Both movements seems old version since there is a new one as already mentioned in this thread

I have never seen the big jewel anywhere besides the ome promotional photos and the ace freesprung version

 

[corkone]

I have never seen the big jewel anywhere besides the ome promotional photos and the ace freesprung version

This! I asked multiple (non-)TDs, no one knew about a "v2" w/ new plate/jewel. I also looked at numerous QC, but it was always the "standard" version.

 

[marcoxxxx84]

This! I asked multiple (non-)TDs, no one knew about a "v2" w/ new plate/jewel. I also looked at numerous QC, but it was always the "standard" version.

Too bad…. The v2 seems to be phenomenal

 

[DalePilledToo]

This! I asked multiple (non-)TDs, no one knew about a "v2" w/ new plate/jewel. I also looked at numerous QC, but it was always the "standard" version.

Yeah probably fake news

 

[fletch512]

Yeah probably fake news

Lots of fake news and conjecture in this thread. Sot cite some recent examples: custom CNC 1:1 cases ($1000+ value), upgraded movement with correct deco plates ($700 value), free BMW X5 with every OME 5712 purchase, etc. As the saying goes, if it's too good to be true...

 

[Wingding1984]

Lots of fake news and conjecture in this thread.

Also, my dong is long enough to cast right across the Atlantic.

I'm hoping for a decent, well-specced 5712 at some stage. Otherwise I'm looking at $3-5$k for a high end modded watch, but even then I'd like a decent everyday off-the=shelf 5712 rep that doesn't go over $1.2k. OME gets us closer to that in some respects but there are just too many elements that I would still want modded.

 

[DalePilledToo]

Also, my dong is long enough to cast right across the Atlantic.

I'm hoping for a decent, well-specced 5712 at some stage. Otherwise I'm looking at $3-5$k for a high end modded watch, but even then I'd like a decent everyday off-the=shelf 5712 rep that doesn't go over $1.2k. OME gets us closer to that in some respects but there are just too many elements that I would still want modded.

Well what is a “decent” build ? cnc case and freesprung?

 

[Wingding1984]

I'd want to get the basics right.

Dial colour
Moondisk the right colour, or close enough
Pinions that don't look like omelettes
Proper end links
Functioning power reserve
Correct moondisk movement
Decent lume finishing

I don't need the case to be 100% correct, as long as it's close enough. Recessed crown would be nice, and ideally 8.5mm or thereabouts thickness. Extra bracelet polishing would be a nice bonus too.

Personally, I'm less concerned about the back end of the watch, so full engraving and 22k rotors are not my priority unless I'm going for a high end build. I'm sure others would have different priorities, and that's fine.

And no BMW X5 please. They're frightfully vulgar.