NOOB V3 116500LN announced! Whats new?

[RiffRalf]

the writing on the dial is horrible, so different from the gen. not to mention the horrible Daytona red / orange lettering. The arf dial continues to be better

Personally when looking at MScott's thread-and the famous youtube vid- I would describe the Noob dial as pretty awesome myself. I have not seen enough of the V3 Noobs yet and for now withhold judgment on the orangey DAYTONA script. The ARF dial may be better but the ARF watch is not a chrono and therefore not a consideration for me. Am I going to buy a separate watch to get a different dial, have a watchmaker or modder transplant the dial, and turn my expensive $700 rep into an even more expensive $1100 rep? Or am I just going to put up with the minor imperfections and celebrate my not having to spend $22k on a working Daytona?

Disclaimer: this is not to put down the efforts by the modders who get the separate gen parts etc, i admire their skill and passion but my bar is set lower in what I am prepared to accept, and higher as in regards as to what I want to spend in money, time and effort.

 

[M Scott]

I'm very interested in this 116500 ceramic Daytona, with the 4130 movement, and 904 steel. I consider this an incredible approximation.

I am leaning more towards the black dial (I actually find it more appealing), however I am worried about the subdial thickness.

In fact.. No.
Noob is actually using two dials for the V3. Confirmed by my TD.
A dial with green lume (on the right) and newer dial (left). Both are not using the fat dials, don’t worry. The newer is more gen like (subdials). Waiting it to see in real and to have a better opinion.
Check pics guys.

So apparently there are two V3 White different dials. One with Blue Lume, and one with Green, which would be wrong.
Noob corrected the White dial sub-dial thickness to be more Gen like with the Updated "V2.2" 8 months ago, so that should be unchanged.

I believe however that the member that you were replying to wanted a Black dial Daytona.

The V3 Black dials are problem because we have seen pictures of the old V1-V2 dials with reallly thick sub-dials being used. We have also seen pictures that look like the Updated "V2.2" dials with thinner silver sub-dials. Even the thinner "V2.2" sub-dials on the Black dial are still slightly thicker than Gen, and the silver is shinier than Gen.

We don't really know if Noob messed up the lume colors on any of the Black dials yet.

 

[M Scott]

Greetings Gentlemen,

This is my first post. I wanted to take a minute and thank this community. I've been reading through various forums articles for close to a year now, and learning an incredible amount regarding the watch world in general. I'm very interested in this 116500 ceramic Daytona, with the 4130 movement, and 904 steel. I consider this an incredible approximation.

I am leaning more towards the black dial (I actually find it more appealing), however I am worried about the subdial thickness. Can someone PLEASE confirm with actual QC pics or actual watch pics (after they receive it) that the subdials are in fact V2.2? If they are thick again (V1-V2), I am thinking I should go with the white dial to be on the safe side. The white dial subdials seem to be exactly like the gen....

Thanks for the help!

You can order a Black Dial Daytona and then post your QC pictures asking which sub-dials the watch has. If they are too thick, you can reject the watch. If the TD is not able to find a another Black dial with the thinner sub-dials, then you could switch your order to a White dial Daytona.

 

[M Scott]

The Daytona is a smallish watch. I doubt anyone would pick up the difference in subdial thickness even with the black dialed one, not even when held next to eachother unless blown up 50 times on a computer screen pic. Even the "serif" bezel is hardly visible-but I admit is annoying if you know it's there. In your shoes I would just get what I want, these reps are awesome. If I had not ordered a GMF GMTII BLNR for my first rep I would have gone with one of these myself.

As I posted just a few pages ago...

This may be true for the White dial Noob Daytonas, but for the Black dial 116500 models I would respectfully disagree.

The picture in my sig has 12 Daytonas in it. The first 4 are Gen, the next 4 are ARFs, and the last 4 are Noobs.
- In this small scale sig picture it is very difficult to see the differences in any of the White dials.
- It is however, much easier to see the differences in the sub-dials of the Black dials, even at this very small scale.
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[Swiss Maiden]

You can order a Black Dial Daytona and then post your QC pictures asking which sub-dials the watch has. If they are too thick, you can reject the watch. If the TD is not able to find a another Black dial with the thinner sub-dials, then you could switch your order to a White dial Daytona.

Thank you very much for the feedback everyone! I will proceed with M Scott's suggestion. My approach will be to order the V3 Black Dial, and hopefully it has the more narrow "V2.2" subdial thickness. I will also let the forum members know what type of Lume blue vs green the black dial V3 actually has (blue being more gen like).

If we try a couple black dials and they all have the incorrect fat subdials, I will go for the white dial version (not my personal preference, but still an amazing watch).

Thanks again!

 

[M Scott]

Pictures from a non-trusted dealer's site showing the Noob sub-dials looking thinner and closer to Gen than the ARF.

Still too shinny, but maybe a bit thinner. Sadly, the Noob SELs are not looking good at all.
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[Bobi01]

Pictures from a non-trusted dealer's site showing the Noob sub-dials looking thinner and closer to Gen than the ARF.

Still too shinny, but maybe a bit thinner. Sadly, the Noob SELs are not looking good at all.
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Scot? Arf v3 ? Lol

 

[AceAri]

Welcome here !

In fact.. No.
Noob is actually using two dials for the V3. Confirmed by my TD.
A dial with green lume (on the right) and newer dial (left). Both are not using the fat dials, don’t worry. The newer is more gen like (subdials). Waiting it to see in real and to have a better opinion.
Check pics guys.

Gen :

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Wow. Can we safely assume that all the V3's shipping out of the factory from now on will have the newer dial with blue lume? Waiting for QC pics so wouldn't accept green lume obviously but that would make me feel a bit better. Thanks.

 

[RiffRalf]

-... It is however, much easier to see the differences in the sub-dials of the Black dials, even at this very small scale....

I hear ya. I don't think anyone apart from yourself and perhaps a few other forum denizens with very sharp eyes would notice when wearing the watch "in the wild" though certainly with the later ones. If I had my heart set on a black dial Daytona rep I would simply order a Noob V3 right now which is what I was trying to convey to Swiss Maiden. Which is what I would do myself with the white one had I not just bought my GMF 116710 BLNR which is significantly more flawed than the Noob Daytonas and I don't care. The Noob Daytona is a gorgeous watch. And when you press a pusher it measures time and all the subdials work. And it doesn't cost $22k. That's how I look at it

 

[M Scott]

Scot? Arf v3 ? Lol

Opps, as guru would say...

Sorry, had already beers.

 

[M Scott]

Wow. Can we safely assume that all the V3's shipping out of the factory from now on will have the newer dial with blue lume? Waiting for QC pics so wouldn't accept green lume obviously but that would make me feel a bit better. Thanks.

Not really, just check your QC pictures carefully, and be sure that they include a lume picture.

 

[Bobi01]

Opps, as guru would say... already too many beers.

:rofl:

 

[SchaffhausenGuy]

Hey everyone, got my white dial v3 delivered today. Glad to say, blue lume. Got it from Trusty the minute it became available. First impressions: I own 5 v2.2 Daytona’s. Two white dial one black and two grey dial 116519’s. I’ll say that my initial runs of grey dials had the smoothest running movements. While overall they all are great movements, far better than most reps(coming from someone who has nearly 50 reps), they do vary in winding/grinding sound. My worst best error on any of them is 0.1 and my rate/day is at worst +- 13 seconds. My best was a 2.2 with beat error of 0 and rate of + 1 s/day. The v3 was qc’d at +3 seconds per day and error of .1. Tested when I get it home with +7 seconds per day and 0.1 beat error. Every thing is better quality all around compared to the 2.2 versions. And I’ll add some photos after work but there isn’t really much difference in dial from 2.2 to 3. At least not without a loupe. I’ll just say, as a gen and rep owner of these, and a member of prestigious watch groups that meet up frequently. My watch maker friends were convinced by the 2.2’s and unless I pointed out the R on the bezel they didn’t notice. My point is, if you want a real deal...then buy gen parts or just the real one. Otherwise these are reps and once you know about any of the flaws thanks to these great forums, you will notice them. If not, these are near identical to the naked eye and are literally better than most real watches. Suffice to say, you should be happy with any model you get, but this v3 is the best yet. Put an arf dial on it and a clean bezel and I would think a AD would have a hard time without opening the case back. Also I own 3 clean bezels and yeah they are as good as the hype says. Buy them while you can since I worry they might go out of production or sell out. It makes a difference to have the platinum plating( and I can’t really tell so far if the v3 is platinum plated or not)...so who wants pics?

 

[SchaffhausenGuy]

 

[SchaffhausenGuy]

 

[2841]

Hey everyone, got my white dial v3 delivered today. Glad to say, blue lume. Got it from Trusty the minute it became available. First impressions: I own 5 v2.2 Daytona’s. Two white dial one black and two grey dial 116519’s. I’ll say that my initial runs of grey dials had the smoothest running movements. While overall they all are great movements, far better than most reps(coming from someone who has nearly 50 reps), they do vary in winding/grinding sound. My worst best error on any of them is 0.1 and my rate/day is at worst +- 13 seconds. My best was a 2.2 with beat error of 0 and rate of + 1 s/day. The v3 was qc’d at +3 seconds per day and error of .1. Tested when I get it home with +7 seconds per day and 0.1 beat error. Every thing is better quality all around compared to the 2.2 versions. And I’ll add some photos after work but there isn’t really much difference in dial from 2.2 to 3. At least not without a loupe. I’ll just say, as a gen and rep owner of these, and a member of prestigious watch groups that meet up frequently. My watch maker friends were convinced by the 2.2’s and unless I pointed out the R on the bezel they didn’t notice. My point is, if you want a real deal...then buy gen parts or just the real one. Otherwise these are reps and once you know about any of the flaws thanks to these great forums, you will notice them. If not, these are near identical to the naked eye and are literally better than most real watches. Suffice to say, you should be happy with any model you get, but this v3 is the best yet. Put an arf dial on it and a clean bezel and I would think a AD would have a hard time without opening the case back. Also I own 3 clean bezels and yeah they are as good as the hype says. Buy them while you can since I worry they might go out of production or sell out. It makes a difference to have the platinum plating( and I can’t really tell so far if the v3 is platinum plated or not)...so who wants pics?

Totally agree. The Noob is very good OOTB, and no one besides yourself is gonna notice the tiny flaws when its on the wrist. To make MYSELF happy, i modded my v.2.2 with the CF bezel (compared it to a GEN, and you can not tell the difference with the naked eye! The platinum really makes the difference) My SEL´s are good after i changed the spring bars for swiss quality, but i still bought a ARF bracelet, just to give it that final touch. IMO the dial is near perfect, and on the wrist there are no tells. So changing the dail for ARF would be pointless for me.

 

[Cadows]

Hey everyone, got my white dial v3 delivered today. Glad to say, blue lume. Got it from Trusty the minute it became available. First impressions: I own 5 v2.2 Daytona’s. Two white dial one black and two grey dial 116519’s. I’ll say that my initial runs of grey dials had the smoothest running movements. While overall they all are great movements, far better than most reps(coming from someone who has nearly 50 reps), they do vary in winding/grinding sound. My worst best error on any of them is 0.1 and my rate/day is at worst +- 13 seconds. My best was a 2.2 with beat error of 0 and rate of + 1 s/day. The v3 was qc’d at +3 seconds per day and error of .1. Tested when I get it home with +7 seconds per day and 0.1 beat error. Every thing is better quality all around compared to the 2.2 versions. And I’ll add some photos after work but there isn’t really much difference in dial from 2.2 to 3. At least not without a loupe. I’ll just say, as a gen and rep owner of these, and a member of prestigious watch groups that meet up frequently. My watch maker friends were convinced by the 2.2’s and unless I pointed out the R on the bezel they didn’t notice. My point is, if you want a real deal...then buy gen parts or just the real one. Otherwise these are reps and once you know about any of the flaws thanks to these great forums, you will notice them. If not, these are near identical to the naked eye and are literally better than most real watches. Suffice to say, you should be happy with any model you get, but this v3 is the best yet. Put an arf dial on it and a clean bezel and I would think a AD would have a hard time without opening the case back. Also I own 3 clean bezels and yeah they are as good as the hype says. Buy them while you can since I worry they might go out of production or sell out. It makes a difference to have the platinum plating( and I can’t really tell so far if the v3 is platinum plated or not)...so who wants pics?

How is ARF lume compared to Noob? Does it match Noob hands lume? And what should be done to ARF dial to fit Noob case? I would really appreciate your answers mate. Thanks in advance

 

[SchaffhausenGuy]

 

[Cadows]

Totally agree. The Noob is very good OOTB, and no one besides yourself is gonna notice the tiny flaws when its on the wrist. To make MYSELF happy, i modded my v.2.2 with the CF bezel (compared it to a GEN, and you can not tell the difference with the naked eye! The platinum really makes the difference) My SEL´s are good after i changed the spring bars for swiss quality, but i still bought a ARF bracelet, just to give it that final touch. IMO the dial is near perfect, and on the wrist there are no tells. So changing the dail for ARF would be pointless for me.

Where did you find spring bars?

 

[2841]

Where did you find spring bars?

You need 1.8mm x 20mm. I tried out different sizes and different brands, and by far this was the best: https://www.everestbands.com/collect...ar-1-8mm-thick