Noob Exporer II V2 w/A2836 Now Available

[Rudy40]

I will post. I was more concerned about the white of the markers and hands not quite matching. It didn't think that they might not be white enough in general. Rudy, do you think they are not white enough or just slightly mismatched?

Well in my opinion!
I think the hands and dial markers are slightly mismatched...It appears to me the hands lume is whiter than the markers. But i have also seen variances in the gen also?
So i figure sending out for a re lume to do the hands and markers so they would be the same! With the whitest lume i can buy to match the dial..
But really it may not be as bad in person.(Yet to receive my watch yet) and maybe better than thought! I will have to wait and see what the verdict is?

 

[stevejones]

thanks mikfin

 

[peterpl]

V1 was the best version
V2 hands lume is mis-matched for sure. Its in everyones QC that I have seen to date. Relume will fix this but thats another $100 on top of a watch that now costs over $300 for no improvement at all.

Someone put a great post somewhere comparing the V1 and V2 to Gen on the bezel numbers also which shows V2 has less accurate font.

V1 was almost perfect except the sloppy lume on the white versions and the clasp not closing. If the lume on the white was fixed and the clasp was fixed it would be the best rolex rep out there.

 

[RetFed]

V1 was the best version
V2 hands lume is mis-matched for sure. Its in everyones QC that I have seen to date. Relume will fix this but thats another $100 on top of a watch that now costs over $300 for no improvement at all.

Someone put a great post somewhere comparing the V1 and V2 to Gen on the bezel numbers also which shows V2 has less accurate font.

V1 was almost perfect except the sloppy lume on the white versions and the clasp not closing. If the lume on the white was fixed and the clasp was fixed it would be the best rolex rep out there.

My clasp is flawless on mine and I think you have the V1 and V2 mixed up. The V1 was released at 2 different times, the white dial I have was released in March and some say the numbers on the bezel are not accurate. The earlier v1's had better fonts. The version just released in this past 2 weeks is the V2, and it appears this new V2 has the correct font, it also has the dark colored rolex lettering on the clasp and the other items listed in the description. With all of this I see the new V2 Explorer 2 as one of the best super reps being made.

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[peterpl]

^^ How can it be a superep with mismatched lume? LOL

V1 is still the best version.

 

[RetFed]

My experience with superlume is that it appears mismatched in photos but in person it's been very even and accurate. I guess I win both ways, I will have a V1 and a V2. I think they are both super reps. I also like that I will have both a black and a white dial to wear depending on my mood for that day.


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[eisnerracing]

Good looking watch ! But I have to say the exp 2 aside from 21j from Stan is amazing

 

[ColPanic]

There's a new J12 version too for $268 http://www.tswatchltd.com/15204-ro15204-explorer-ii-white-42mm-ss-1-1-copy-asian-2836.html

 

[egroegart]

V2 is far superior than the v1. mifkin is correct. They actually had a release of the v1 back in march only for a few days and the font on the bezel was just terrible. The version 2's have that taken care of as well as the clasp issue, have also improved the visibility of the crown etching at 6 oclock, and the hour indices on the black are immaculately polished now to emulate just about exactly the gen. The white I'm not so convinced about. I still think the black has less flaws, actually if any. Yes, it was me that did the comparison of the verson one with the version that was released in march to the gen. and the comparisons that I've done wth this new one the improvements are well worth it. I'm talking the black one now. because I haven't spent time with the white one yet.

ANd RUDY. I sent you responses about that clone 3187 and that I would never buy that again. that it's not worth the money at all. and I linked you to my thread about it too. the asian 2836 is the model to get. It's a reliable proven movement. I see no need to spend 500 bucks to get a refurbished swiss or pieced together swiss movement on these. My opinion is the asian 2836 is the best. Now. One issue that the version one did not have was a left justiied datewheel. and in several of the pics of the version two. I am seeing a left justified datewheel. I'm not liking that, so hopefully it was just the watch that they took the model pics of and not on all of them. other than that. the black is still awesome and much much better than the version one, and you couldn't get much better than the version one.

 

[Rudy40]

V2 is far superior than the v1. mifkin is correct. They actually had a release of the v1 back in march only for a few days and the font on the bezel was just terrible. The version 2's have that taken care of as well as the clasp issue, have also improved the visibility of the crown etching at 6 oclock, and the hour indices on the black are immaculately polished now to emulate just about exactly the gen. The white I'm not so convinced about. I still think the black has less flaws, actually if any. Yes, it was me that did the comparison of the verson one with the version that was released in march to the gen. and the comparisons that I've done wth this new one the improvements are well worth it. I'm talking the black one now. because I haven't spent time with the white one yet.

ANd RUDY. I sent you responses about that clone 3187 and that I would never buy that again. that it's not worth the money at all. and I linked you to my thread about it too. the asian 2836 is the model to get. It's a reliable proven movement. I see no need to spend 500 bucks to get a refurbished swiss or pieced together swiss movement on these. My opinion is the asian 2836 is the best. Now. One issue that the version one did not have was a left justiied datewheel. and in several of the pics of the version two. I am seeing a left justified datewheel. I'm not liking that, so hopefully it was just the watch that they took the model pics of and not on all of them. other than that. the black is still awesome and much much better than the version one, and you couldn't get much better than the version one.

Yeah eggroll i got your response ...But i already had ordered it. And i don't go back on my word once given to my TD..Thats alright though i like the looks of the decorated 3187...It may not be worth the extra money...but its still nice! ...I think the watch can be modded to look better...I originally wanted the black dial version ..but at the time i ordered it was out of stock! So i opted for the white dial for a change! Because all my subs has black dials!
I will slowly get some mods done to it!...And see what the end result will be?

 

[egroegart]

Thats right. I forgot you had already ordered it. It is an excellent watch. A very good one, and that white dial one with some mods with be excellent. I dont' know about the white one, but the black one has a gen spec crown. there is no difference between the gen crown and the rep that are visible by the naked eye.

 

[SUMIKITO]

Yup, as George [Egroegart] just said, the black one is the one to get ! Much less visible flaws if any. And moving back into the A2836-2 is a step in the right direction. Tried, tested and more reliable. I mean, heck, who is gonna see the movement anyway? Superman ? Having small wrists here, I tried that one on [black dial], it felt like I was wearing a clock !! LOL ! My daughter 'confiscated' it from me one day while visiting, swapped out the bracelet with a fancy [girlie] colored NATO strap, and wears it proudly on her dainty little wrist !! You cant win sometimes............ !!

 

[ColPanic]

V2 is far superior than the v1. mifkin is correct. They actually had a release of the v1 back in march only for a few days and the font on the bezel was just terrible. The version 2's have that taken care of as well as the clasp issue, have also improved the visibility of the crown etching at 6 o'clock.

Good to hear

ANd RUDY. I sent you responses about that clone 3187 and that I would never buy that again. that it's not worth the money at all. and I linked you to my thread about it too. the asian 2836 is the model to get. It's a reliable proven movement. I see no need to spend 500 bucks to get a refurbished swiss or pieced together swiss movement on these. My opinion is the asian 2836 is the best.

Can you share the link re 3187? I hate those and the omega clone movements simply because you can't have any old watchsmith work on it. They can all work on an ETA compatible, but they won't touch these Franken movements.

col , thanks for posting , will you post pics of the date at 28 and the clasp when you get them please

I got new QCs. I'm a little disappointed in the DWO but I'm afraid if I reject it they won't get a whole lot better and may have new problems. It's not dead on but the 2s aren't being cut off.

 

[egroegart]

I see nothing wrong with that dwo alignment. the font is correct, and it's centered. Maybe possibly remotely it is a minute minute bit to the left. but not anything to reject over. Looks good to me. Remember it's a rep. not going to be perfect, but with that said, I see nothing wrong with that alignment. That is an acceptable watch. No way I would reject that.

 

[ColPanic]

I accepted it. The 2 is right at the edge while there's space next to the 9. A centered date is sort of a pet peeve but I won't reject unless part of a number is being cut off. That can be such an obvious tell. A lot bigger than a pearl IMO.

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[egroegart]

I definitely agree with you about the datewheel being a very obvious tell and it would drive me nuts to have one that was off center. but the one watch that I had that was off center I sent to my watchsmith and was a 30 dollar fix and is not centered perfectly. that sub C you just posted there is much further off of alignment, even though the pic is taken at an angle, I can tell it is off to the left. but I really don't see it on your exp II's qc pics. When you get it show us some pics of it straight on so we can see. If it is off too much for you it is a cheap fix. but I don't see it being off really. and not enough to justify denying it. I don't know, maybe other seasoned members will have an opinion. Just don't llisten to noobs as they don't know how this game works yet, and from the noob posts lately they seem to be turning down perfectly good watches.

Just looking at your qc's I see the SEL's are perfect. The bezel font is perfect. The cyclops is straight and even with the datewheel box. the lume application looks good. The dial is excellent. Great printing and font. and everything is straight and lined up like it shoould be. the brushing on the case and bracelet are great. the black hour indices look much more uniform and much more well done than on the version 1. definitely a keeper. Don't forget to show us some pics when you get it, and especially the datewheel alignment too. but I really don't think it's a problem.

 

[ColPanic]

Thanks! You are the Exp2 pro! I agree about ppl rejecting watches over the tiniest stuff is out of control (thickness of glue around pearl comes to mind). And like I said, I won't reject a DWO unless a number is cut off. I didn't know it was such an easy fix though. I thought it was a real pain and not something your average repair guy would do.

I'll be sure and post pics when I get it. I placed the order yesterday morning and I already have a tracking #! Including the time to send more QCs and over a weekend!! Toro is maniac these days.


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[egroegart]

thank you. this is one watch that I do know my stuff about. I know it inside and out. I'm hoping to be able to come up with the funds to be able to order it within a couple weeks. If it's sold out I am going to be pissed. Been waiting since November for this and of course it has to come available when I just spent all my money building my bobcat a new enclosure. GRRRRRR. But I've got a bunch of stuff for sale and am actually listing more stuff right now. lol. I'll be getting the same one but with the black dial. I know you will be happy with it. it's one of the best out there.

 

[ColPanic]

Not listing a breitling SO on SS by chance? I've been trying to get one for a friend.

 

[egroegart]

Not me. I only do Rolex. You would have to contact a dealer for that.