New Release: Noob Skydweller

[KJ2020]

I’m curious if you’d be able to remove the GMT parts off this movement and mount them on the high beat 4813? They aren’t that expensive on the fleabay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/183234074027
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Might not be possible bro. The topside of the DG5833 mainplate has a unique configuration to accommodate the extra GMT wheel gear and the extra setting wheels. These are pre-molded posts on the mainplate to set these gears on that would not be present on the DG4813 non-GMT movement.

High beat needs a different escape wheel, pallet fork and balance assembly which likely means a slightly different configuration on the bottom of the mainplate. So combining the different needs of the top and bottom of the mainplate may not be feasible.

Not to mention the huge PITA of resetting the train wheels and bridge on a DG movement. IDK any watchmakers, even very experienced ones who like working on DGs. Even snapping a second hand pinion (which is not uncommon) often means just replacing the movement. It's just not worth the aggravation to take it apart and replace a center wheel. Someone might want to try this, I don't think it will be me.

 

[R2L]

Might not be possible bro. The topside of the DG5833 mainplate has a unique configuration to accommodate the extra GMT wheel gear and the extra setting wheels. These are pre-molded posts on the mainplate to set these gears on that would not be present on the DG4813 non-GMT movement.

High beat needs a different escape wheel, pallet fork and balance assembly which likely means a slightly different configuration on the bottom of the mainplate. So combining the different needs of the top and bottom of the mainplate may not be feasible.

Not to mention the huge PITA of resetting the train wheels and bridge on a DG movement. IDK any watchmakers, even very experienced ones who like working on DGs. Even snapping a second hand pinion (which is not uncommon) often means just replacing the movement. It's just not worth the aggravation to take it apart and replace a center wheel. Someone might want to try this, I don't think it will be me.

Thanks. This makes it more complicated than its worth. Looks like it’s a dead end for that movement.


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[Richidh]

My supplier is saying this isn’t noob at all


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i heard the same from my supplier.

 

[KJ2020]

Puretime added it to their listings today. More pics available here

https://puretimewatch.io/sky-dwelle...st-edition-blue-dial-on-ss-bracelet-a23j.html

 

[freediver]

If puretime say is noob , i trust them.

Just doesn't look noob quality ...

 

[Bobi01]

Why they use 23j movement with low bps

 

[sfbatman787]

Why they use 23j movement with low bps

Thats my real issue with this watch. The second hand sweep is going to be horrible.

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[KJ2020]

Why they use 23j movement with low bps

For the same reason they still sell GMT Masters with the 2824 CHS timebomb movement - because there is already an inexpensive ready made movement in sufficient quantities that performs all the functions this rep can offer. Minimize cost, maximize profit.

 

[R2L]

KJ2020, what’s the seconds hand sweep like on the one you have now? It also has a 2813 variant inside it, if I’m not mistaken.


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[Bobi01]

For the same reason they still sell GMT Masters with the 2824 CHS timebomb movement - because there is already an inexpensive ready made movement in sufficient quantities that performs all the functions this rep can offer. Minimize cost, maximize profit.

I understand that but can you call this high end rep then? With that pitty movement lol

 

[KJ2020]

KJ2020, what’s the seconds hand sweep like on the one you have now? It also has a 2813 variant inside it, if I’m not mistaken.


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It does, I've never even noticed it. 3Hz or 4Hz is not something I've ever really cared about in a rep. I can see a slight stutter in the second hand of my gen GMT Master, there isn't enough additional stutter in any of my 2813s to be of any consequence to me.

 

[KJ2020]

I understand that but can you call this high end rep then? With that pitty movement lol

Same way they call the $688 Noob Pepsi a high end rep. The 2824 CHS timebomb is worth about $50 too. They both have a nice $8 Rolex font DWO though. Sweet!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Mingzhu...-/322898140461

 

[R2L]

It does, I've never even noticed it. 3Hz or 4Hz is not something I've ever really cared about in a rep. I can see a slight stutter in the second hand of my gen GMT Master, there isn't enough additional stutter in any of my 2813s to be of any consequence to me.

Thanks. It would be interesting to compare how yours sweeps to the gen:

https://youtu.be/pDCDXyuLJyM

From about 1:14-2:20.


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[KJ2020]

Thanks. It would be interesting to compare how yours sweeps to the gen:

https://youtu.be/pDCDXyuLJyM

From about 1:14-2:20.


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That's so freakin beautiful. Maybe someday...

I have quite enjoyed my $158 Regdwellers though I can tell you that. I just try to buy into the fantasy as much as possible and not get too wrapped up in what a rep doesn't have. I guess it comes easy to me being Mr Fantasy and all. Either that or I'm easily deluded, lol.

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[R2L]

That's so freakin beautiful. Maybe someday...

I have quite enjoyed my $158 Regdwellers though I can tell you that. I just try to buy into the fantasy as much as possible and not get too wrapped up in what a rep doesn't have. I guess it comes easy to me being Mr Fantasy and all. Either that or I'm easily deluded, lol.

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You are right, you cannot beat that price for what you get in the watch. And your attitude allows for enjoyment without frustration.

For me, the issue of the gen is the size; it wears larger than a DSSD on my 6.75” wrist. I tried one on at an AD a couple of years ago and loved it, except for the size. If R-factory ever comes out with a 40mm version of this, comparable to a Sub-C or a 6-digit, GMT, I’ll be all over it. Until then I’ll enjoy it vicariously thru YouTube videos and rep versions and posts like these ones.


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[R2L]

I’m also curious, if Noob took the stock 2813 GMT (DG3804B) movement in an effort to save costs, and made it work with the secondary dial, would it be possible to take the A2836 GMT movement and do the same? You may need new hands, which probably wouldn’t be difficult to source, and a few other bits, but your stem height should be about the same. The only tricky thing would be how the month indicator sits under the dial, and if that could be ported over to the new movement.


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[KJ2020]

I’m also curious, if Noob took the stock 2813 GMT (DG3804B) movement in an effort to save costs, and made it work with the secondary dial, would it be possible to take the A2836 GMT movement and do the same? You may need new hands, which probably wouldn’t be difficult to source, and a few other bits, but your stem height should be about the same. The only tricky thing would be how the month indicator sits under the dial, and if that could be ported over to the new movement.


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We would never find ETA hands like these. Well, unless you could source a set from a TD from one of the ETA Sky-Ds. The GMT "wheels" are just printed on these dials.

https://www.ts-stations.cn/mobile/goods.php?ProId=13447

But transferring the DG dial, the GMT wheel and its components would be like making a new movement similar to what the Chinese did with the 2824 CHS timebomb. They could do it I'm sure with more or less unlimited time, tools and labor. A lone tinkerer/modder not so much.

The best hope for high beat I think would be sourcing a 4813 and trying to retrofit the balance assembly, pallet fork and escape wheel to the 5833. BTW Noob didn't do anything with a 3804B, these 5833s have been around for awhile. They aren't a 3804 mod, each is a different 2813 variant.

 

[Merlan8]

QC pics already - going to approve this. The bottom edge of the crystal looks unparallel to the top edge but when one sample is like this it's usually a batch issue. I'll probably replace the crystal anyway. I have a Prof's and a Clark's Sky-D crystal already. I had asked for a timegrapher pic but did not get one so I asked again. Also asked for a pic showing the month indicator, which is apparently between two months in these pics. D'oh.

it seems to me really a beautiful representative outside the box .... obviously replicating the real Rolex movement is not possible but aesthetically it seems beautiful, even the luminous dial !!!
but how come I don't see the red square that indicates the month?

 

[thewatchguy]

Its not from Noob factory, its from another factory and they are using the name of Noob.

I came to know about this from my TD.


(If i'am wrong , let me know with some valid proof)

 

[sfbatman787]

Its not from Noob factory, its from another factory and they are using the name of Noob.

I came to know about this from my TD.


(If i'am wrong , let me know with some valid proof)

Who cares which factory this watch is from! Just bcz it is from Noob doesn't make it any more gen than ARF factory. At the end of the day, look at the rep itself and judge its merits.

So far, to me, the rep looks decent. The dial layout matches gen layout quite nicely. The case shape doesn't look ridiculous. For the most part on the wrist it will look like a gen watch.

The 21600bph tells me that it will have 6 ticks per minute vs 8 so the seconds hand sweep won't be as smooth and for a Rolex that is a dead giveaway. The dial color is a rep blue. Yes a rep blue, blue that either looks like its purple, or is a washed out blue and doesn't have the dynamic range of shades of blue like a gen dial usually does. The font is not as crisp, neither it has a crystal that looks anything like gen.

But as of right now, this SkyD is the best rep example we have available! Maybe if this model does well, noob of whichever factory this is coming from, will end up making it in 904l steel.

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