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New PPF 5712 with PP240 Super Clone.....

Neo_7

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The latest SW and Buff dial are different at 25 and 35 minute markers dots at least. Also the 6 o'clock marker may be wider on Buff's dial but I'm not absolutely sure about it. Nevertheless, Buff might re-use the stock PPF v2 dial. 🤔

The dial of @Neo_7's watch looks a bit more bluish than my SW.
Yes.. and also look at the font ..BUFF dial is more crisp and bold and in real life just make a big difference IMHO ;)
 

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Moon disk is finally ready. I will post a detailed comparation this weekend alongside with all current makers, PPF , buff, SW and genuine side by side .

Here is a preview photo without mentioning the factory’s the come come from.

Dial will also come soon. Moon disk fits all the models with this function.

I honestly can't tell any difference from the gen one
Nice job!
Waiting for the dial!
 
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Moon disk is finally ready. I will post a detailed comparation this weekend alongside with all current makers, PPF , buff, SW and genuine side by side .

Here is a preview photo without mentioning the factory’s the come come from.

Dial will also come soon. Moon disk fits all the models with this function.

Do you have a VVS one to compare with as well? It’s the darkest one of the lot, closest to black, with a decent amount of texture on the moons and stars
 

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Sw to me is still a bit more blue.... waiting for keylogs dial... i am looking to put together one soon...
 

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the Buff dial looks pretty decent, although lack of large dots at 5 & 7 is a deal breaker for me lol. Makes it so much easier to actually read the time
 

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This TD still haven’t updated the pinon mod.
The highest version mod for thr 5712 now is that they change the a gen spec pinon for all the hands. The TD selling now is that they clue a ball on top of the pinon. Which does not give the correct and look to the watch
 

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Looks great buddy. Well made rep.

I have a SW with same mods and it’s exactly the same color dial. I am wondering if buff is just selling SW dials under their name. I’ve seen several buff dials now and not one looks other than my SW.

Wear it in good health buddy. Either way it looks amazing.
Buff and sw is different. Look at the dial markers . Also the printing and dial texture is different. Sw quality is more gen. color wise i can not comment since gen have lots of different color variations.
Also , want to mention there is no such Buff hands or SW hands or vsv hands. There is just ONE aftermarket hands for 5712.
And sorry to say, the posted watch of the buff from popup have stock ppf hands . The easiest tell is the second hand.
The pinon cap is ball shape with silver color. Thats PPF hands. And the power and date hands , aftermarket upgrade is more bevel and 3D , stock is flat .
Here is the problem dealing with wechat dealer . You need to have knowledge of what is what. They always bullshit about what is done to the watch when the parts are stock. Just to raise the price .
 
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Buff and sw is different. Look at the dial markers . Also the printing and dial texture is different. Sw quality is more gen. color wise i can not comment since gen have lots of different color variations.
Also , want to mention there is no such Buff hands or SW hands or vsv hands. There is just ONE aftermarket hands for 5712.
And sorry to say, the posted watch of the buff from popup have stock ppf hands . The easiest tell is the second hand.
The pinon cap is ball shape with silver color. Thats PPF hands. And the power and date hands , aftermarket upgrade is more bevel and 3D , stock is flat .
Here is the problem dealing with wechat dealer . You need to have knowledge of what is what. They always bullshit about what is done to the watch when the parts are stock. Just to raise the price .
I am in the process of dealing with popup and want this watch. could you point of things that I must KNOW? Or how do I make sure I am getting the mods done correctly?
 

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Can anybody explain what “Full 3 Hands Cannon Pin Mods “ is , and how the mod is build and are there additional parts used ?
 
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I am in the process of dealing with popup and want this watch. could you point of things that I must KNOW? Or how do I make sure I am getting the mods done correctly?
Honestly though, why not work with CTime? They did an impeccable job on my 5712, just supplied me with a VVS moon disk because I decided to go with the darker color, and are now helping me with an engraved movement. So many of these WeChat sellers end up charging the same, for a shadier service. Granted in some cases it makes some sense but for big expensive builds I’m team CTime.
 
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Honestly though, why not work with CTime? They did an impeccable job on my 5712, just supplied me with a VVS moon disk because I decided to go with the darker color, and are now helping me with an engraved movement. So many of these WeChat sellers end up charging the same, for a shadier service. Granted in some cases it makes some sense but for big expensive builds I’m team CTime.
Exactly, the wechat sellers its guaranteed that they will scam you one way or another

I honestly could understand it if someone wanted to risk it because the price is a lot better, but from the moment Ctime provides better pricing than them and most important they are Td, there is absolutely no point
 
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Exactly, the wechat sellers its guaranteed that they will scam you one way or another

I honestly could understand it if someone wanted to risk it because the price is a lot better, but from the moment Ctime provides better pricing than them and most important they are Td, there is absolutely no point
You wanna buy a $500 stock watch for $320? Maybe a WeChat dealer makes sense. Even then people should go with an agent like Pandabuy for some security and insurance.

But honestly, I’m team CTime, that’s it. Shoutout @CTime the bestest homies
 
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Guys I am not going with popup because he is cheap, in fact for the things I want it might just turn out to be the most expensive rep out there with the mods. However I am not aware of the mods Ctime can do? I wanted to go with all things BUFF and the price for all those mods with the engraving is coming out the be a very serious price and I want it to be near perfect for what I am paying.
If I am paying $300 for a dial then I would want it to be perfect! same goes for the other mods on hands and pinion etc. Moon disk and moment engraving.
If someone can kindly point out the pro vs cons of BUFF I may reconsider just going with Ctime?!
 
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Guys I am not going with popup because he is cheap, in fact for the things I want it might just turn out to be the most expensive rep out there with the mods. However I am not aware of the mods Ctime can do? I wanted to go with all things BUFF and the price for all those mods with the engraving is coming out the be a very serious price and I want it to be near perfect for what I am paying.
If I am paying $300 for a dial then I would want it to be perfect! same goes for the other mods on hands and pinion etc. Moon disk and moment engraving.
If someone can kindly point out the pro vs cons of BUFF I may reconsider just going with Ctime?!

If you want to go with Buff dial instead, they can help:

 
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Guys I am not going with popup because he is cheap, in fact for the things I want it might just turn out to be the most expensive rep out there with the mods. However I am not aware of the mods Ctime can do? I wanted to go with all things BUFF and the price for all those mods with the engraving is coming out the be a very serious price and I want it to be near perfect for what I am paying.
If I am paying $300 for a dial then I would want it to be perfect! same goes for the other mods on hands and pinion etc. Moon disk and moment engraving.
If someone can kindly point out the pro vs cons of BUFF I may reconsider just going with Ctime?!

lol yeah popup is expensive as fuck, but he is also worth the price IME.
 

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I am in the process of dealing with popup and want this watch. could you point of things that I must KNOW? Or how do I make sure I am getting the mods done correctly?
U really just need to know what u are looking for. But as what i have seen from popup, all he does is change dial, cap pinon , zf or vvs moon and light polish. The rest is stock . But he will over sell bullshting with buff hands, deep crystal . Moon disc also have a few version. The best one are sharppie moon disc where the stars are printed from the bottom and not on top.
If you dont know what u are buying then i would stay away from popup. He is just a sales agent not a moder. He dont know much about the products. He just copy other moders pictures and sale them.
 
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Given that here everyone is free to express their ideas in a polite way and spend their money as they wish .. the only direct and solid contact with the BUFF factory is daili98xing on WeChat.

Having said that, I was also kindly asked by him (WeChat Dealer for Buff) if he can get in touch with Forum Mods to try and become a TD.