I have been waiting for an update for the white dieal 116500 and I think this Noob V2 or v2.1 (whatever they want to call it), is getting close enough to me. I am sure you can scrutinize the crap out of these watches and find flaws, but no one outside of the forums is going to really notice them (especially when it's on your wrist and not blown up to the size of your screen). Here's a link to a video some gen collector posted to youtube where he describes how shockingly good the original noob panda was:
https://youtu.be/blFdKaCNFEA This guy is a gen collector and he is going over the images taken of the original noob by an AD. None of the tells that anyone has pointed out on the forums, either here or in the Noob v ARF site, were picked up by these guys. The stuff they did pick up on (if you can call it that) were really minor at best and it wasn't until they opened the case back to look at the movement which is when they determined it was a rep--since the finish on the A4130 isn't remotely close to the quality on the gen and there are a few mechanical differences. At this point, I say go for the noob over the arf and get any dial you like. Sure, there may be some more improvements, but it's not going to make much of a difference in the scheme of things and you'll really enjoy this watch. For those that bitch and moan about the price of these noob daytonas, get over it!!! Yeah, they are expensive, but have you gone over to check out the prices on AP Royal Oak Offshores recently. They aren't that much less--they aren't even remotely close to as accurate as the Noob Daytona and the movements are not reliable or really close to look like the gen. As far as reps go, this noob v2 (whatever you call it), is super sweet. When I got into this game 5 or so years ago, this would have been a super rep of the highest order. Some of you noobies are way too spoiled by the quality you can get today. These are reps for christ's sake.... they are never going to be perfect (but pretty darn close). I say buy and enjoy!!!