New Noob AP reps after Feb 2016

[legend]

Correct me if I'm wrong guys.

From my understanding Noob AP has always been inferior as compared to JF AP. So why the excitement here?

You're mostly not wrong and I do agree that in general the JF builds are better. But perhaps the threat of competition from JF will compel Noob to improve their game and upgrade their "re-releases".

I doubt that the new releases would be 3126 clones though, more likely they will be A7750 movements dressed with 3126 plates like the JF ones.


Message crafted while wrestling a juvenile crocodile that's unwilling to be captured and made into leather

 

[slaughterer62]

Noob versus JF ROOs has been discussed many times here.
It depends on the model, but sometimes a modified Noob is better than a modified JF.
I think this is the case with the GP models, and some of the standard ROOs.
You will always need to put antireflective coating on a Noob cyclops and a Noob Xtal, and you will probably always need to replace some screws, relume, and service the movement--but the end result is sometimes better than the JF.
With the Noob GPs, you will also need to replace most of the case and replace the tachy and refinish the dial.
End costs will be much higher for modding a Noob ROO, of course, but sometimes the result will be better than modding a JF.
But I respect the developments that JF has introduced, and I do not want to take away from their achievement.

 

[TheDonSL]

Noob versus JF ROOs has been discussed many times here.
It depends on the model, but sometimes a modified Noob is better than a modified JF.
I think this is the case with the GP models, and some of the standard ROOs.
You will always need to put antireflective coating on a Noob cyclops and a Noob Xtal, and you will probably always need to replace some screws, relume, and service the movement--but the end result is sometimes better than the JF.
With the Noob GPs, you will also need to replace most of the case and replace the tachy and refinish the dial.
End costs will be much higher for modding a Noob ROO, of course, but sometimes the result will be better than modding a JF.
But I respect the developments that JF has introduced, and I do not want to take away from their achievement.

I'm getting a JF tattoo as my first, LOL

 

[stxtf]

I am a big fan of JF. I prefer fit-and-finish out of the box reps over modding and micro-accuracy. If noob can do that I might take a look, but I'm happy with my JF collection regardless.

 

[Fettekatze]

Correct case thickness is absolutely necessary. I think that'll be the biggest hurdle to squeeze out an extra 1.5-2mm.

 

[slaughterer62]

That last 1-5mm-2mm significantly adds to the comfort of an ROO. I do not know why they do not just lower the hands a bit to make the watch thinner. There is plenty of extra room there.

 

[Fettekatze]

That last 1-5mm-2mm significantly adds to the comfort of an ROO. I do not know why they do not just lower the hands a bit to make the watch thinner. There is plenty of extra room there.

I don't think comfort would really be affected any, but the side profile aspect ratio just looks completely wrong. If you slim it down to the thickness of a Diver, it looks a lot more "right".

 

[aflop]

I don't think comfort would really be affected any, but the side profile aspect ratio just looks completely wrong. If you slim it down to the thickness of a Diver, it looks a lot more "right".

Oh I can assure you it affects it plenty. That 1-2mm difference is a world of difference for smaller wristed chaps

 

[Fettekatze]

Oh I can assure you it affects it plenty. That 1-2mm difference is a world of difference for smaller wristed chaps

Like fitting under a shirt sleeve? The only discomfort I've had from watches were if the strap was too stiff or if a deployant clasp digs into your skin. i.e. HBB's and the AP deployant.

 

[aflop]

Like fitting under a shirt sleeve? The only discomfort I've had from watches were if the strap was too stiff or if a deployant clasp digs into your skin. i.e. HBB's and the AP deployant.

What's your wrist size? It's more of how the watch sits on my wrist for me - the thickness of the case back pushes the height and weight up so the watch is very top heavy and it's hard to put in words but it does play a huge part in comfort on the wrists! If you've put a gen on then followed by a rep you'd see the difference. At least I did

AP deployment clasps only dig into your wrists when the strap is too long for you I think. Could be wrong tho!

 

[markiemark]

Not sure if Noob, but they are working on better AR. They're still testing it, but it would be a huuuuge upgrade!

 

[Retina]

1-2mm difference in height is a big difference, i can attest to that when comparing the ap 15400 and my nautilus reps...

 

[over]

Not sure if Noob, but they are working on better AR. They're still testing it, but it would be a huuuuge upgrade!

Date wheel sit at the same position?

 

[ZoomBoy]

Not sure if Noob, but they are working on better AR. They're still testing it, but it would be a huuuuge upgrade!

Is that what they said on watchbus? I thought he was just offering AR service.

 

[markiemark]

Is that what they said on watchbus? I thought he was just offering AR service.

Oh lol, I cant read Chinese! I used Google Translate and it looked like they were going to offer this as they were still testing it...

 

[markiemark]

Date wheel sit at the same position?

Did you actually read what I wrote or did you just looked at the picture?

 

[m..c]

Interested to see what these will look like.

 

[Fettekatze]

What's your wrist size? It's more of how the watch sits on my wrist for me - the thickness of the case back pushes the height and weight up so the watch is very top heavy and it's hard to put in words but it does play a huge part in comfort on the wrists! If you've put a gen on then followed by a rep you'd see the difference. At least I did

AP deployment clasps only dig into your wrists when the strap is too long for you I think. Could be wrong tho!

6.5in. I mean, my DSSD is the most top heavy of all my watches and it's not uncomfortable, it just looks kind of "off". Same with my ROO's. The DSSD gen owners seem to agree and it has nothing to do with whether it's rep or gen. Gen watches can be poorly designed too. I wish the gen and thus the rep were 15% thinner. No need for a big honking 3mm slab of titanium as a caseback.

The deployant on my Jarno Trulli felt fine, but there's a thread on the first page with people complaining, so IDK. A piece of metal touching skin will always be less comfortable than a soft strap.

 

[aflop]

6.5in. I mean, my DSSD is the most top heavy of all my watches and it's not uncomfortable, it just looks kind of "off". Same with my ROO's. The DSSD gen owners seem to agree and it has nothing to do with whether it's rep or gen. Gen watches can be poorly designed too. I wish the gen and thus the rep were 15% thinner. No need for a big honking 3mm slab of titanium as a caseback.

The deployant on my Jarno Trulli felt fine, but there's a thread on the first page with people complaining, so IDK. A piece of metal touching skin will always be less comfortable than a soft strap.

I think DSSD is an unfair comparison because of the bracelet and glide lock clasp which sits flat.

If you try on the Jarno Trulli, Ginza, Bumblebee these will 100% be more comfortable because they are much lighter. This - from my humble experience. But yes, strap over metal any day! You should really try to pick up an XS strap for deployment and wonder why you didn't earlier!

 

[Retina]

The DSSD was never comfortable for me due to it being top-heavy.. the bracelet seems unproportional as compared to the humble submariner...

the AP ROO line is more comfortable for me as the straps and the watch head was proportional, stick on a rubber strap and its a potent combo which you can wear daily...
although my wrist size is 6.5 inches, i could comfortably pull off a hublot 45mm and 44mm LBJ watch with no issues.