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*NEW CUSTOM 5712 GEN SPEC PINON & NEW ENGRAVING MOVEMENT*

Ac1013

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Me and my private moder have worked with a few factories trying to make the best 5712 as possible. After a lot of testing , we have came up with a new pinon modification technique and a beautiful movement engraving.

As we have seen there are other parts of the watch other then the dial that needs a upgrade.
One of the biggest tell we see is the pinon. On the market there are 2 ways of pinon upgrade, such as the pinon cap cover and a steel ball mod. Both of these actually glued a cover on top of the stock pinon to make it looks closer. BUT they look too big ,and the height is too high . This flaw is an instant tell its fake .
Me and my moder have came up with a true Gen spec pinon mod, that we actually replace all 3 pinon. Custom made that the size and the height perfect.
On GEN , you can see the inner circle of the minute hand, the pinon is small and only filling the hole of the hour hand. Compare to the cap modification is big and cover the whole hole.
For subdial hands , GEN pinon should also have a silver ring surround the pinon.
Color of pinon, many have said it should be one silver two gold, BUT year 2021-2023 GEN updated to all 3 silver pinon

The below are comparison pictures.

GEN


AC CUSTOM PINON


CAP PINON




Stock PPF



AC MOVEMENT ENGRAVING
Alot of time when we get engraved movements the printing are smudge and the gold plating runs out of the letter. By this non perfect engraving, IMO it looks even more fake then stock non engraved. After a lot of testing, we have finally came to a result. Below are comparison picture of AC , BUFF and others

AC ENGRAVING


BUFF plates


OTHERS


Please feel free to share your opinions on these new mod. Thanks
 

tinitonsi

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Nothing to say but congrats. Well done buddy, this community needs people like you. Such an added value, indeed 😍
 

JimmyBobby

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And while this is currently the best engraving, it's still way more of an instant tell than the pinions imo. The font size is twice as large as gen engraving, the print is more accurately sized.

AC Plate font size

PPF print, very close to gen font size


Tried to upload a gen pic but kept saying file was too big.
 

JimmyBobby

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And while this is currently the best engraving, it's still way more of an instant tell than the pinions imo. The font size is twice as large as gen engraving, the print is more accurately sized.

AC Plate font size

PPF print, very close to gen font size


Tried to upload a gen pic but kept saying file was too big.
And it reversed my pictures lol. 1st pic PPF print, 2nd pic AC Plate
 

JimmyBobby

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Found a gen pic that would upload. For ease of comparison

GEN font size

PPF Print font size

AC plate font size and noticeably finishing off


Currently i think the stock printed plate looks better because of the font size and the finishing is much more congruent with the rest of the movements finishing.

Definitely progress over previous engraved iterations, but not worth it yet for me.
 

Ac1013

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Found a gen pic that would upload. For ease of comparison

GEN font size

PPF Print font size

AC plate font size and noticeably finishing off


Currently i think the stock printed plate looks better because of the font size and the finishing is much more congruent with the rest of the movements finishing.

Definitely progress over previous engraved iterations, but not worth it yet for me.
The gen you are refering is an older version with non pp logo.
Please check the cal 240 movement starting from later 2019