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WatchestoPlay

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Do you really miss that part? No need for namecalling buddy, you just came out of nowhere and started bashing me.



I've been personally attacked multiple times, just because I said my opinion, which I was asked to do by the OP.
You really can't read. I made one comment that I thought that people were saying they were different which is in direct response to you saying that they all thought they were the same.... you then told me to learn to read... remember that?
So I responded accordingly.
 

Asmodeus

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You really can't read. I made one comment that I thought that people were saying they were different which is in direct response to you saying that they all thought they were the same.... you then told me to learn to read... remember that?
So I responded accordingly.
Dunno we might be lost in the translation, I'll re-read what you said tommorow. cu, good night every one.
 

Parabuteo

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Somebody said they are all the same and there is no secret formula, hence prof clarifying that is absolutely not true

Sent from the RWI App

The "somebody" was @2fake4u....

"And let's be honest here, there is no secret AR formula. There is no secret AR lab. They all use the same shit. I've been chasing this rabbit for awhile now, mainly because i like to diy and i dont like to pay others to do work, and i can tell you now that there are plenty of labs here in Colorado that do ARfor watches."

And both Asmo and Prof disagreed with that in different ways in different posts.

Problem here is everybody is worked up now and not looking for the common ground which is: We'd all like to see all the crystals compared some way some how, but Asmo is somewhat understandably feeling badgered into it now and I think we all need a rest from this thread...

I know I do and am going to take one....:wacko:
 

sinsir

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Dunno we might be lost in the translation, I'll re-read what you said tommorow. cu, good night every one.

I've read through this whole shit show, and I know I lost in translation why you won't provide a crystal for the comparison? I know if I was launching the one, I'd want to be in the mix, especially considering no one is asking for a freebie. They're a lot of customer's looking to spend their money and if yours is all that... Proof is in the pudding as they say.
 

2fake4u

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Can we let this thing die?

Im planning a camparison pics thread in 2 weeks with every xtal i can get.

Let's let this die until then
 

Sonil

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Dear all. I think we need to remember the 'community' spirit here on RWI. Think this thread has gone off on a tangent and we need to put a line under it. Don't think we should term each other 'competitors' especially whilst providing a service here. We are merely providing further options to fellow members.

As was mentioned above I would gladly offer one of my sapphires for comparison. Currently one of my double ARd 15400 crystals is with Slaugterer62 for review. When I run another batch, then I will send to 2fake4u for a side to side with all other crystals. Or to any other member who would like to review.
 

slaughterer62

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It is a rather difficult task to run a full comparison of all of these different crystals given the sheer amount of crystals available to test (there are probably over 10 different versions of aftermarket AP crystals alone with different AR processing, and even more aftermarket versions of the standard Rolex crystals). What makes it even more difficult is that these crystals are not all uniform, and vary between themselves because of different runs and different AR application procedures even at the same facilities, which have changed over time. The other insurmountable challenge to avoid all subjective bias: one really needs to photograph these crystals on the same watch, in the same geometric/lighting conditions, which is frankly not even 100% possible for even those with professional lighting and photographic equipment. A third requirement, to be perfectly objective, would be the need to photograph all of these crystals in the same situation blind, without knowing which one was being installed, so as not to bias the photographic reproduction in some way.
 

2fake4u

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It is a rather difficult task to run a full comparison of all of these different crystals given the sheer amount of crystals available to test (there are probably over 10 different versions of aftermarket AP crystals alone with different AR processing, and even more aftermarket versions of the standard Rolex crystals). What makes it even more difficult is that these crystals are not all uniform, and vary between themselves because of different runs and different AR application procedures even at the same facilities, which have changed over time. The other insurmountable challenge to avoid all subjective bias: one really needs to photograph these crystals on the same watch, in the same geometric/lighting conditions, which is frankly not even 100% possible for even those with professional lighting and photographic equipment. A third requirement, to be perfectly objective, would be the need to photograph all of these crystals in the same situation blind, without knowing which one was being installed, so as not to bias the photographic reproduction in some way.
i dont think it is that hard to do.

my plan for it is to use the same watch, taken with the same artificial lighting, placed in the same spot and taken from the same angles. raw, unedited picture files as well.

And, I will have no labels on the pictures as to not slant bias either way in the thread.

I have no skin in this game, and really dont care what xtal I ultimately go with as long as price to quality ratio is good
 

Spinman

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Crystal Clear is now taking orders for their crystals. They're offering a green tint or a blue tint for the 295 c Rolex. You can choose either to have just the cyclops coated or a full AR treatment of the crystal.
They also have crystals for AP's.
I just ordered two blue tint "Black Hole" cyclops only coated crystals. $90 each and $6.95 USPS priority shipping.

https://www.dsxtals.com/prelaunch-sales/

Hopefully, 2Fake4u will get some soon and do his comprehensive crystal comparison. I'm looking forward to that.
 

gamba66

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Crystal Clear is now taking orders for their crystals. They're offering a green tint or a blue tint for the 295 c Rolex. You can choose either to have just the cyclops coated or a full AR treatment of the crystal.
They also have crystals for AP's.
I just ordered two blue tint "Black Hole" cyclops only coated crystals. $90 each and $6.95 USPS priority shipping.

https://www.dsxtals.com/prelaunch-sales/

Hopefully, 2Fake4u will get some soon and do his comprehensive crystal comparison. I'm looking forward to that.

Cant wait! I am dying to order one.

Biggest concern is the cyclops magnification for me but if they get thst right I will order 2 immediately.

I definitely prefer this over a stock genuine lec crystal in my wm9 18239 franken, hate the fingerprints and smudges on it because of the black dial..
 

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Just Got mine today, packaging and quality looks v good.
Waiting for the case on which this goes on to! Will post photos once done ... might take a while.
 

Asmodeus

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I am sorry, I've been really busy the past 2 weeks. Let me know who would be interested to review my crystal and I'll send one to him asap.
 

phdsjain

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Lot of us are waiting for your crystal to drop @Asmodeus! The perfect 1:1 crystal. Dimensions, ?LEC and cyclops mag & 2AR. Oh and a certificate of authenticity :biggrin:
 

2fake4u

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I am sorry, I've been really busy the past 2 weeks. Let me know who would be interested to review my crystal and I'll send one to him asap.
ive been trying to get one to compare vs gen, prof, sonil, CC....