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New AR+ Factory GMTs

kennygconspiracy

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If ARF are back it’s great news.

These guys were game changers back in 17/18 when they launched their Daytona, SD43 and Submariner. Each had their own flaws, but they were miles ahead of Noob. They were the first factory to fix the dark numbers on the bezel, use 904, and still make the best bits on a CF watch.

Then they dropped the ball and became inconsistent with terrible crystals and blocky date wheels.

I think they fixed the shock white lume on their recent releases, not 100% sure - something to look out for @kennygconspiracy


LN on jubilee - is that even a thing though?
LN on jubilee is pretty darn awesome, I think it will be a fun configuration, even if not common in gen (although probably
 

mnkoshka

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Unfortunately Still using the CF bezel insert that every other factory seems to have adopted
 

KJ2020

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116710LN on jubilee was never available in gen, strictly fantasy.
 

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I highly doubt AR+ is AR. If they were AR, why would they use a different name for the same brand, Rolex?
 

kennygconspiracy

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I highly doubt AR+ is AR. If they were AR, why would they use a different name for the same brand, Rolex?
Good thought. Honestly all we can do is guess. More information will come from TDs as we learn. Looks great to me. Had some experience with C+ Fs and they looked and felt fantastic. More competition is good news for us buyers 🙇
 
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As I understand, AR factory bracelet and Clean Factory bezel are used. I highly doubt it's the old ARF. Here I send you some photos


Those hands 😍😍

The datewheel sure looks like the old arf dw 😂😂😂
 

KJ2020

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Same last 4 serial as CLEAN has used - Y2L3. Also note the two 3's in the serial are different fonts, just like CLEANs.

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Click on 'How to Fix' below to read the article

https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/xm7rsc
 
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KJ2020

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Datewheel looks over magnified, like the ARF SD43 V1's were.

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Not to derail the thread but what ever ended up happening to ARF? I took a break during ARF/Noob era and when I came back around it was all CF, VSF etc. They still make bracelets but no full watches anymore right? Why is that?
Did they get caught up in all the raids during that period? The sort of 'half comeback' sticking to only bracelets just seems a bit weird.
 

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Not to derail the thread but what ever ended up happening to ARF? I took a break during ARF/Noob era and when I came back around it was all CF, VSF etc. They still make bracelets but no full watches anymore right? Why is that?
Did they get caught up in all the raids during that period? The sort of 'half comeback' sticking to only bracelets just seems a bit weird.
Arf never made bracelets. There bracelet supplier now supply's to clean and others
 

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As I have shown in my photos, the quality is terrible, and the movement at winding does not seem to be the same as that used by Clean. The price is only 50-80$ cheaper, but I think the best option is to buy the Clean Factory version, although you have to pay a little more. My dealer has confirmed that it has nothing to do with ARF.
 

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Datewheel looks over magnified, like the ARF SD43 V1's were.

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yep, either over magnified or the datewheel printing is too big. What makes me wonder in this picture is that the magnified datewheel cutout seems to have the same size as the gen. So either the magnification is wrong what would mean that the cutout is too small or the cutout and magnification are right and just the printing is too big. We all remember ARF for their nice and big datewheel printings :)
 

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yep, either over magnified or the datewheel printing is too big. What makes me wonder in this picture is that the magnified datewheel cutout seems to have the same size as the gen. So either the magnification is wrong what would mean that the cutout is too small or the cutout and magnification are right and just the printing is too big. We all remember ARF for their nice and big datewheel printings :)
Yes I noticed that also when I made the comparison. Either way it's a dealbreaker.
 

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Yes I noticed that also when I made the comparison. Either way it's a dealbreaker.
Unfortunately yes, a big datewheel printing would be the most acceptable as the VR ones are very good and cheap to get. But a small cutout is another level, definitely dealbreaker if it's that
 

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Wish I'd seen this thread last week before I pulled the trigger. I rejected the watch i received QC pictures of for a couple of reasons;

Terrible alignment of the print on the date wheel.
Misaligned bezel insert.
Looks a bit gappy around the SELS

I ordered the black bezel on the jubilee, but the QC pics were on an oyster so I'm hoping the next set of QC pics show a big leap in quality of finish!

Andrew at trustytime has been great with communication, can't fault the him as a dealer.