Miyota 9015 vs asian 2824 what do you think?

[mvlovecartier]

???

also i heard about ballon bleu v9 that comes with miyota
while v6f comes with asian 2824
whos gonna win?

 

[tripdog]

You mean like in a fight ? My money's on the Miyota, better condition, better training, more likely to go the distance thanks to better QC - unlike the Chinese clones which suffer from poor preparation.

 

[CBJones]

Miyota for longevity..loud, but reliable

 

[dmastah12]

I would go miyota any day

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[2fake4u]

miyota in a shouting match

2824 for the smoother operation and not having a jet engine rotor on your wrist.

 

[auskip07]

Whats the accuracy of the myota? I believe the accuracy of the ETA or clone being in the +30/-30 seconds a day is the best it can get.

 

[Eagl3]

Whats the accuracy of the myota? I believe the accuracy of the ETA or clone being in the +30/-30 seconds a day is the best it can get.

That's not very good. I can regulate within 5s/day with most high beat movements on the timegrapher. I normally only wear a watch for 3 days in a row, but I'll generally see around 7 seconds drift by the time I remove it.

The miyota is harder to regulate because of the lack of a fine adjuster, so they normally drift more than my ETA clones.

 

[auskip07]

That's not very good. I can regulate within 5s/day with most high beat movements on the timegrapher. I normally only wear a watch for 3 days in a row, but I'll generally see around 7 seconds drift by the time I remove it.

The miyota is harder to regulate because of the lack of a fine adjuster, so they normally drift more than my ETA clones.

I think you misunderstood my post, +-30 seconds a day is what ETA has it rated for a "standard" grade ETA movement Im assuming that most of the clones run close to a standard grade movement.

" If you look at the ETA specs for the 2824, they are pretty loose: For COSC certified it is -4 / +6 seconds per day, for top but non certified its +- 10 seconds per day, elabore grade is -+ 20 and for a standard base its +-30 seconds. This applies to new or newly serviced movements. If a service is needed then the watch usually slows down a lot as oils get thicker and contains contaminants from wear. If the oils have all dried out completely then the watch will speed up a lot; in both cases a service is needed to correct it and timing will not help. "

Thats not to say that you cant regulate it better but what ETA suggests as acceptable is within that range

 

[timto1388]

The only thing annoying me is the rotor so loud , the date go upwards other than that it's a warrior


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[timnic54]

I like the Miyota 9015 better than the 2836 or 2824, but I am a bit deaf, so the noise from the unidirection winding Rotor, I don't hear.

However there is not much competition for a 2892, which I think is a really great movement. It would be nice to see more 2892 in Reps

 

[Nanook65]

Not a fan of the noise the miyota makes. Sounds like a figure skater ripping up the ice every time you move your wrist

 

[rwiwatchman]

The miyotas are troopers and if noise is too much for u, you can quiet it down. QC will go to the Miyotas because they are assembled under better conditions they are many small watch companies First Choice due to their reliability. If the Miyota is inside of a thick watch like a dive watch (my deep blue) you will not hear the rotor but if it is in a thinner case (my NTH pelagos homagewatch) you definitely could hear the rotor.

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[muiramas]

I think you misunderstood my post, +-30 seconds a day is what ETA has it rated for a "standard" grade ETA movement Im assuming that most of the clones run close to a standard grade movement.

" If you look at the ETA specs for the 2824, they are pretty loose: For COSC certified it is -4 / +6 seconds per day, for top but non certified its +- 10 seconds per day, elabore grade is -+ 20 and for a standard base its +-30 seconds. This applies to new or newly serviced movements. If a service is needed then the watch usually slows down a lot as oils get thicker and contains contaminants from wear. If the oils have all dried out completely then the watch will speed up a lot; in both cases a service is needed to correct it and timing will not help. "

Thats not to say that you cant regulate it better but what ETA suggests as acceptable is within that range

I think you're looking too far into it.

+|- 30 sec/day is a lot.
ETA saying that's acceptable is like VW saying using 1l of oil per 2,000km is acceptable.
It's a get out of jail free card.

Realistically your standard ETA / clone should be better than +|- 15 and easy to regulate to COSC.
The success of COSC as a standard is because it's so easy to meet.

 

[d4m.test]

Thank you all!!!


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[ssouthall6]

Neither. Buy Asian eta switch with gen eta.


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[Hinclimincli]

I'd go with the Miyota too, QC is way better. I know ETA can be regulated to COSC requirements, but good luck keeping a clone at that level for a long time. Don't forget genuine Swiss ETAs have four levels, and the two top ones have slightly different components in order to meet the top grade and the chronometer grade. The fact that some ETAs are kept within COSC parameters doesn't mean ALL ETAs can stay there!

 

[hmartsupply]

I may have to make this choice for my 1st rep purchase soon (older IW3233-05, or maybe a -10). This thread is a a bit aged, and modernizations & methods improving as they are wont to do over the years--- are there any fresh opinions on today's iterations of these movements compared to one another? I want something accurate, reliable, easier to service and the closest approximation to the caliber 80110.

 

[p0pperini]

I may have to make this choice for my 1st rep purchase soon (older IW3233-05, or maybe a -10). This thread is a a bit aged, and modernizations & methods improving as they are wont to do over the years--- are there any fresh opinions on today's iterations of these movements compared to one another? I want something accurate, reliable, easier to service and the closest approximation to the caliber 80110.

It’s unlikely there have been any significant changes to either movement since this thread was last contributed to. So the opinions expressed above would still be as valid today as they were when posted. One could speculate that the Chinese get better at copying stuff all the time, so the standard of a Chinese clone movement is constantly rising - but this is probably then balanced out by the variable conditions in Chinese assembly plants with less stringent QC.

If I had the choice, I’d go for the Japanese movement unless the price premium being asked for the Miyota version was silly.