Miracles Happen! Ordered A21J watch got an ETA Clone

[Warrcraft]

I ordered a watch with the A21J movement (from a TD on another forum) as the watch and case description looked exactly the same as the TD's ETA offering. Upon receiving the watch, I opened up the case back and to my GREAT surprise found a 2836-2 ETA clone! (The one with the "Rolex & Crown" engraving on the rotor).

I have heard of folks ordering a certain movement and "accidentally" getting a lower grade, but never the other way around!

Just thought I would share.

 

[levelmanroger]

Ok. Mark this day.
I can no longer say I've never heard of this "Oops! Wrong movement" mistake happening in the buyers favor.

It took over 3 years to happen, but I'm glad to know it finally did!


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[Warrcraft]

Ok. Mark this day.
I can no longer say I've never heard of this "Oops! Wrong movement" mistake happening in the buyers favor. It took over 3 years to happen, but I'm glad to know it finally did!

Exactly! I almost freaking fell over!

 

[phillycheez]

That's awesome dude. You are stoked!

Now I want to hear someone ordering a rep and receiving a gen.

 

[Bonesey]

Of course the proper thing to do is to send it back and get it replaced with the 21j movement one that you ordered. Since this is what we expect the dealers to do, shouldn't we set the example?






(in a perfect world of course)

 

[RWIGWH]

In a perfect world, this would not be an issue. It was the dealers mistake...If the dealer is willing to pay for him to ship the watch back, and ship the 21J back to him, on his dime, i'd say you can make a case for this...But I seriously doubt it's worth it for the dealer at this point.

Of course the proper thing to do is to send it back and get it replaced with the 21j movement one that you ordered. Since this is what we expect the dealers to do, shouldn't we set the example?






(in a perfect world of course)

 

[gazumi]

Another of the same dealer's customers ordered an ETA clone and received a 21J by mistake...

 

[Bonesey]

Of course you understand that I'm playing devils advocate here. But it's one rule for them, one rule for us. They send us a cheaper watch and we get all pissy because we've been done out of some money and not received what we ordered. We get something better and we come to the forums to brag about it. In one case the buyer is out of money and in the other, the dealer. Now what are the chances that the dealer is going to come on the forum and open a thread saying 'man i sent this dude a better watch, now he wont return it, I've lost money on this, what can I do??

 

[G30]

Come to terms. Pay the difference...

Be honorable.

 

[Bonesey]

Bet this wasn't the response the OP was expecting

 

[phillycheez]

I see it as the rep gods balancing out the rep world.

I've been douped and got a lesser movement before. Unfortunately I found out a year later and the dealer didn't make it right cause he couldn't find our transaction even though I pointed him to my great review of him after getting my watches.

Personally I think dealers still get way too much leeway as is. They get to say they sell swiss when its 40% refurbished clone parts and 60% used over oiled swiss.

They get away with saying 1:1 built using genuine counterpart... When clearly its just a hodgepodge of yesteryears parts.

Just sayin..

 

[garrincha]

No reason for him to pay the difference, since he only wanted the A21J watch. The "honorable" thing to do would be to send the watch back on the dealer's expense and to get the right one, but the total shipping cost would probably offset the price difference between the 2 versions.

 

[Q5?]

:ttiwwop:

 

[Warrcraft]

Let's make it worth something then!

Here are 2 picts of the movement.

 

[Warrcraft]

Bet this wasn't the response the OP was expecting

Bonesey, actually...it is the EXACT response I expected to get! I wanted to see what the other members take on this would be. My QC picts order number was attached to the watch so I highly doubt it was a switched order.

As for the "honorable thing" I did send an e-mail to the TD to let him know, in the unlikely event he sent an A21J to a person that ordered an ETA. As a side note...the "upgraded" or more expensive watch was only available in a "Swiss ETA" (no less expensive clone ETA option). In looking at this movement I am fairly certain it is a clone ETA. Shiny gears, poorly stamped ETA markings, poor rotor engraving & spacing. Makes me wonder, had I ordered the so-called "Swiss ETA" if this clone is what I would have received.

 

[Warrcraft]

No reason for him to pay the difference, since he only wanted the A21J watch. The "honorable" thing to do would be to send the watch back on the dealer's expense and to get the right one, but the total shipping cost would probably offset the price difference between the 2 versions.

I have to agree with Garrincha on his above point. I only wanted the A21J movement or I would have paid the extra money and purchased the "Swiss ETA." The reason why I did not is because the case description and pictures were the same as the "Swiss ETA." There was no option for a less expensive clone ETA. Since, I am one of the folks that does not believe we really receive "Swiss ETA's" I was not willing to pay extra for a "Swiss" when I probably would have received a clone.

I do agree, that if the dealer want's to send me an A21J and PAY for my return shipping, that would be fine with me.

 

[cybee]

WoW that's a nice looking movement. Send it back, no way. At this point forget about it and just enjoy it. It's just a rare occasion where the lack of QC has worked in your favor. If it becomes an issue for you and you can't sleep at night, I will buy if from you at the price you paid

 

[ALE7575]

I think you could talk to the dealer and include the difference in the dealer account for the next order.
Perhaps someone has received a A21J instead ETA clone.
In this way the dealer will be able to discount the difference in the next order to who has recived the A21J.
All in order and correct.
ALE

 

[grejyedi]

Hire Nikki to do your customer service.

 

[Warrcraft]

I think you could talk to the dealer and include the difference in the dealer account for the next order.Perhaps someone has received a A21J instead ETA clone. In this way the dealer will be able to discount the difference in the next order to who has recived the A21J. All in order and correct. ALE

Ale, I have already sent an e-mail to the dealer. It's up to him of course to figure out if someone else got a wrong movement. I think that is highly unlikely as my QC picts and order number attached to the watch were correct. "IF" there was a switch in movements, the other person ordering would have still actually received the wrong movement, as this appears to be a clone, and the only other ordering option was a "Swiss ETA" (no clone ETA offering).