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Mini Review of JF's AP 15703 V10

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2841 said:
Going over the old tread and KG¨s review, from what i can gather, it's just a wrong font on the datewheel that's the only problem with this v10 model. Correct?
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No DW side by side genuine vs v10 , I’m waiting big comparison including small parts.


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legend said:
Honestly, what I always tell guys who come see me in person, is that if you just want a nice watch to wear, buy a rep. If you are serious collector, get the gen, keep it BNIB, and wear the rep anyway. So you see there is always room for reps no matter which category you belong :hehehe:

What matters is not whether the watch is 1:1 or otherwise, but how you feel wearing it. Some guys are happy slapping on a stock old V3 diver on the wrist and call it good, and others like your good self may need more to satisfy your sense of ownership. Ultimately and indisputably, each of us wants that feel of wearing a branded or luxury watch on the wrist without having to pay the full price for it. It is a salient aspect of the hobby nobody here can deny, and the difference is the amount of mods one needs to get there.

If I am asked to build a stainless steel diver for myself, this is what I will do. There is no right and wrong, and I am merely sharing my personal preference.

- I will get the movement and datewheel from the XF ceramic diver, a 2836, swiss or asian doesn't matter.
- cyclop can either be retained from the new version, or I will opt for Mikey's one. I have not studied it
- Dial, I prefer a gloss finish myself (There are at least 3 variants in the gen 15703)
- Dive bezel I will opt for the latest one, with the proper borders around the lume. It is NOT perfect vs gen, but will serve perfectly in real life
- Low beat conversion will be done to bring the movement frequency to 21600bph and a movement service and regulation will be performed at the same time
- Bezel screws will be polished, aligned and refined
- hands will be polished and relumed if necessary (I did not study the details to say for sure)
- case and bezel will be rebrushed to gen spec (personal preference, not for visual accuracy)
- caseback will use an i series one if not already
- watch will be waterproofed

Now with the above done, will watch be 1:1? No, it obviously will not. But will it make me happy wearing it in real life? Absolutely. I will appreciate the details of the above modded watch if worn in real life. Therein lies the significance of owner satisfaction, vs needing something 1:1 (which is a synonym for gen if you think about it). There is always a line to draw for each owner on what he can accept and what he cannot, and hence it is a very subjective matter. What makes me happy for the same watch may be inadequate for one, and excessive for another. Learn your own preference, and sometimes, what others like can serve as a point of reference for you too. I do have a collection of about 20+ unworn BNIB Rolex and Patek in my collection, but I never feel the urge to wear them myself. When it comes to wearing watches, AP is the go to brand for me. This is another area where owner preference comes into play, and I like your approach of using reps to test drive what you like in your gen collection.
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I agree, always room for reps :) We spend some time every year at our house in Mexico, and although it’s somewhat safe, it’s still an area where I wouldn’t wear my gens. Hense the purpose of rep Rolex’s :)

Obvious flaws irritates me, and I tend to focus more on the flaw, then actually enjoy the watch. That’s why, I within reason, enjoy modding and frankening. Plus when you are used to gens, something like a rep crystal just wont do :)

thank you very much for the list. I’ve just ordered a v10 with bracelet from Li, and based on how it looks irl, and if I actually like the watch on the wrist, I have a couple of things on the list to get me going.

Using reps as “test pilots” just makes sense, especially when most of the watches I’m interested in, are very hard to get. I have somewhat easy access to Rolex sports models due to a small town, and a purchase history. But AP and PP is in another league, as you know, and the waiting is significantly longer. I don’t mind going gray for a watch I really want. But I would hate to waste money on a model I don’t really like after a couple of weeks. A good example is my 3K 5167. I got a very nice one, with a gen strap and ZF clasp, and I really do like the watch, would I ever spend 35-40.000 on the gray for this watch, no never.... it’s just not worth it imo, it’s a very underwhelming watch, based on my personal taste.

next on my list is a 5177 white dial, I love the look of the watch, but taking a rep out for a test drive before dropping 60.000 just makes good sense to me :) (I saw the one you sold a couple of weeks back, but wasn’t fast enough :(

Eiter way, this is a very interesting hobby that I’m very glad I stumbled upon, it does gives us watchlovers some advantages in regards to enjoying hard to get timepieces.

thanks for the rundown legend I really do appreciate it
 
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I agree, always room for reps :) We spend some time every year at our house in Mexico, and although it’s somewhat safe, it’s still an area where I wouldn’t wear my gens. Hense the purpose of rep Rolex’s :)

Obvious flaws irritates me, and I tend to focus more on the flaw, then actually enjoy the watch. That’s why, I within reason, enjoy modding and frankening. Plus when you are used to gens, something like a rep crystal just wont do :)

thank you very much for the list. I’ve just ordered a v10 with bracelet from Li, and based on how it looks irl, and if I actually like the watch on the wrist, I have a couple of things on the list to get me going.

Using reps as “test pilots” just makes sense, especially when most of the watches I’m interested in, are very hard to get. I have somewhat easy access to Rolex sports models due to a small town, and a purchase history. But AP and PP is in another league, as you know, and the waiting is significantly longer. I don’t mind going gray for a watch I really want. But I would hate to waste money on a model I don’t really like after a couple of weeks. A good example is my 3K 5167. I got a very nice one, with a gen strap and ZF clasp, and I really do like the watch, would I ever spend 35-40.000 on the gray for this watch, no never.... it’s just not worth it imo, it’s a very underwhelming watch, based on my personal taste.

next on my list is a 5177 white dial, I love the look of the watch, but taking a rep out for a test drive before dropping 60.000 just makes good sense to me :) (I saw the one you sold a couple of weeks back, but wasn’t fast enough :(

Eiter way, this is a very interesting hobby that I’m very glad I stumbled upon, it does gives us watchlovers some advantages in regards to enjoying hard to get timepieces.

thanks for the rundown legend I really do appreciate it
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I’m not sure why a lot of the V10 seem to have the same problem. I’ve seen a few TD’s photos with similar problem.
 
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I finally received my v10 today and I am totally amazed. JF has done a real good job on this.
 
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Bentleylover said:
Will V10 make it to the NWBIG ? ????


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It’s very high level and gen like with v10, now we need full comparison HQ pics H model gen sample DNA with JF including small parts side by side , after that everyone here change his mind left or right , I’m still waiting Chinese forums to do it .


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Repworld said:
It’s very high level and gen like with v10, now we need full comparison HQ pics H model gen sample DNA with JF including small parts side by side , after that everyone here change his mind left or right , I’m still waiting Chinese forums to do it .


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Ok how about a nonsense gif in the meantime repworld? Lol


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