Well, seeing that you have your Tudor pics we can start with a few Tudor franken subs that were sold by a well know resell dealer back a year or two ago.
Benardwatch.com sold about 5 Tudor subs that were frankens. I purchased one of them and so did several of the other members at RWG. They even stated they were gen, but I knew better. ...and I know I even saw one being sold on Ebay as a gen for something like $3k+.
I even have a Tudor 7032 Monte Carlo franken. The case and dial are aftermarket but the movement is gen. One of my local Rolex watchmakers wants to buy it from me. To this day, he still thinks it is gen...even with me saying it is not. He even replaced the crystal on it for me...and did a reseal and service on the movement...
I am not defending the guy, but at least he is not trying to sell it as a gen and is even willing to meet locally to show the watch. I am not saying this is the greatest either...but this one is not...
I almost purchased a franken solid 18k Rolex sub the other day. It was beautiful with a blue gen lapis sub dial in it. It had a gen movement, dial, and crystal. The case and band were aftermarket, but it had serial numbers engraved to match a set of existing serials number papers that the guy already had. Gold is to expensive now, so it really was not much less than a gen for that model so I had to pass.
These rep sites are on the lower end of the replica world...the thing is when you get to a certain level you can't even tell if it is rep or not...buyer beware!
Well mate I am sorry you had a bad experience with one seller (honestly sorry, I aint taking the piss here) , but most of the jewellers out there are ok. Fcourse if you buy a watch from the Bay from a seller in Malaysia out of a blurry pic and get ripped off, erm... well.
That was not the point to begin with, that watch is ugly, a bad franken if you wanna put it that way. It sucks ass. Honestly if you think that watch looks good, I aint surprised a bastard was tempted to throw in a pos and try to rip you off.
The guy said it looks gen. It doesnt.
Then he claimed he spent a lot of money in it.
Who cares, it still doesnt look gen.
To make it simple:
Good looking franken (ask LOOHQ how much he put in that).
Good looking franken.
POS.
Dial is abs crap, wrong size, look at the crown Rolex logo lol, wrong marker at 6, wrong hands, apparently crown-tube issue, I aint even sure the lugholes can host gen springbars. (no bracelet? 1800$ I'd expect a gen bracelet for that money. As a matter of fact I expect a gen Air King).
The only gen side of that watch is its price.
Never mind...you missed the point...
I forgot most of the members here are only rep collectors so I will explain a little more...
Many of the gen resellers or gen dealers at the watch shows also are watchmakers and like to toy around making frankens in addt to reselling 100% gens or even gens with aftermarket parts on them.
Let's call this a franken since it does have a gen movement in it at least...
Many of the vintage Rolex watches being sold now are hardly original...i.e. many on Ebay and even at resellers are being sold as gens when they are in fact frankens....
I know a guy that has a sub that was badly damaged due to a motorcycle accident. He had a watchmaker in vietnam make a new case for it with the same ser#as the orig had on it. It has been serviced by three different "Authorized" Rolex dealers and it has never been questioned.
My point is there is no line...it is just the level at which a watch is repped...
...and if you are buying a pre-owned gen...better be careful because even the dealers can't tell the difference now...
...at least this seller told you it was not gen!
I forgot most of the members here are only rep collectors so I will explain a little more...
You bought a franken for a gen and we lack experience with gens, right?
Jeez... dont tell us you know KungFu too...
You sound like you mean it is virtually impossible to buy a gen Rolex unless you order a new one from Rolex, sorry that's bullshit. You just have to know what you buy and whom you deal with, that's all. I have 29 gens, some Rolexes and only a few reps, never had a problem with frankens. You just had a bad experience, maybe you lack experience.
Buying a Rolex is simple even if you can't tell a franken from a gen, find an official dealer. He won't be messing around risking to lose his licence (worth far more than a watch) to screw a couple noobs.
There are good frankens out there alright, but they sure look better than that pos the guy was trying to sell for a gen price lolz
Incidentally, if a franken can fool a seller, that doesnt necessarily tell us its a good franken. It might just be an unexperienced seller and I met some...
Well, you still need a tray.
Oh, the food is hot, I am sorry.
