MAKING REP AP WATCHES LOOK GENUINE

[Mjh2k4]

I can definitely tell Sprite and Pepsi apart from 10m as long as the bottle is clear.

 

[TonyMonatana44]

Have you ever considered just taking out the crystal of your reps? Sounds like that might just be the recipe to success for you.

ha ha ha. Yes I have. changed the CF Crystal to a Deep, and now changing the Deep to a Gen. Nothing is like a gen whether you want to believe it or not. Cheers mate.

 

[TonyMonatana44]

I can definitely tell Sprite and Pepsi apart from 10m as long as the bottle is clear.

And to think my jokes were bad..

 

[legend]

Sorry - I'll work on my jokes. Us NY people are not the best at telling them.

And you're absolutely right. The GMT Sprite I just bought was near perfect. I couldn't tell it apart from the real thing (other than the serial number on the case) until i took a magnifying glass and looked at the hands, to see that they weren't 100% as sharp and polished as my gen Rolexes. The other thing that I saw right away was the CF crystal that didn't have the clarity that my gens have. So I swapped it out for a deep xtal, and after I installed that, I am putting in a gen xtal because it's still bothering me.

I didn't mean any disrespect to any of you, i'm just telling you guys what I've seen and what i've been called out for. I understand @legend is an actual Legend, and I think it's super impressive what he does.

Putting all salty sarcasms aside, nobody is claiming that reps = gens. They aren’t and will never be whether at 1m or 1km.

The point of contention is here is you saying you’re able to call them out in the wild at (insert arbitrary impractical distance here) meters from the finish and crystal. Have you not heard of used gens? Or beat up ones? Or refinished reps? The lines can be blurred once a watch is not brand new and fresh out of the boutique. We have very talented fellas here who can make watches look very legit on the wrist. Are they gen? No but can they look gen say at 2-3m away on the wrist? Oh yes they can absolutely. That is where the point of debate is. Let’s not make defensive claims which run all the way to the extreme end of the spectrums.

And believe it or not, crystals are not the strong point of gen APs. The rep ones are pretty decent. You can make the point about the crystal on your specific watch but does the same statement apply to every rep? No sir it doesn’t. And those watches you saw and thought that they’re reps (or gens), how do you verify them as such? Whatever you applied on the gmt, it simply cannot be a blanket yardstick for every rep in existence.

And you asked me if I’ve read the 2-3 posts after your exaggerated one. I’ll ask you if you read the 148,935 or so posts which talk about how far the reps have come today and the tells on the specific models.

If you want to talk about gens, I own a nice collection of them and if you want to talk about reps, I work on a plethora of them too. What’s your sample size for each side of the game to make such sweeping statements about replicas and how they can be called out? Nobody is claiming they are gens but they have evolved to a point where they can’t be just called out without scrutiny on the wrist in the wild at 10m or even 5. That’s just a simple fact and you just cannot reasonably claim otherwise.

 

[Storm.]

And I thought Reddit was full of people who can’t read/don’t want to read the rest of threads before replying. I clearly said in my reply that I was exaggerating when I said I can see a rep at 50 meters. Again, unless you’re


Sorry - I didn't realize this was Reddit. Did you actually read what I said two comments after my post when I said I was exaggerating or just decide to to state the obvious? Of course I can't see a rep 50m away, as I've confirmed.

And I thought you were supposed to be some magic wizard when It comes to AP's? I'm not trying to sound like an asshole. But when I purchased my first rep AP the instant tell that it was a rep was the crystal, not the color or the shine on the metal. Not the dial. And I could easily tell my self from afar when others wore it, and I was even called out about it when an event manager at my friends wedding who had a genuine AP on himself came up to me, made conversation about my watch and his, and then told me that the glass gave it away that mine wasn't real.

My cousin from Switzerland (who has an extensive collection of gen watches) called me out on my GMT Batman this past summer saying that the glass didn't look high quality and that something was off about it. He explained that good quality sapphire shines and reflects in certain conditions. That Batman was purchased from a TD two years ago and I paid $500+ for it. So not a shitty turkey rep special.

The rep my brother purchased in Turkey was also not a bad rep. Everything other than the crystal and the date wheel was indistinguishable from the real thing.

So with all due respect, i'm not trying to be a jerk on here, I believe all of you have far more experience and knowledge than I do when it comes to gens and reps, but telling me I can't spot a fake that the factories take 2 hours polishing cases on and who put on lower tier glass vs the real thing is just funny. Or maybe you're all just super experts and can see things in a different light vs all the people who've called me out on my reps and from what I've seen in the past.

If that's the case, why not wear your reps to the stores since the sales people won't be able to see that they're fake without a loop or holding it in their hands? No dealer would ever know! They might even shake your hand and say, "sir, your watch is so nice, that glass you have on your gen gives the most shine off of any watch i've ever seen in my life" and proceed to give you a gen for free.

No. He'll probably stay silent because he see's 10000 gen watches a day and knows how that little crystal/case/bracelet actually shines and gives off certain reflections etc. But in his head he'll know it's not genuine and laugh inside his head.

Yes. I know people in Switzerland too.

 

[Storm.]

ha ha ha. Yes I have. changed the CF Crystal to a Deep, and now changing the Deep to a Gen. Nothing is like a gen whether you want to believe it or not. Cheers mate.

Don't believe you. Prove it.

 

[TonyMonatana44]

Putting all salty sarcasms aside, nobody is claiming that reps = gens. They aren’t and will never be whether at 1m or 1km.

The point of contention is here is you saying you’re able to call them out in the wild at (insert arbitrary impractical distance here) meters from the finish and crystal. Have you not heard of used gens? Or beat up ones? Or refinished reps? The lines can be blurred once a watch is not brand new and fresh out of the boutique. We have very talented fellas here who can make watches look very legit on the wrist. Are they gen? No but can they look gen say at 2-3m away on the wrist? Oh yes they can absolutely. That is where the point of debate is. Let’s not make defensive claims which run all the way to the extreme end of the spectrums.

I never said reps = gens? I swapped out the xtal on my GMT to a gen, the bezel, the click spring, the dial, and the hands. Now I cannot tell a difference at all looking at the franken build vs a gen. Now when I look at the franken build vs my rep Sprite for example, I can honestly say "the franken looks gen and the rep, well just looks like a rep". That's the whole point to this argument. If you mod a watch with gen parts to the point you can't tell it's a rep, then there is the answer. It's gen quality and finish. Same applies to when I look at someones wrist. I can distinguish to a certain point (definitely not 50 meters as i've already confirmed) that a watch might not be a gen watch. Makes sense?

And you asked me if I’ve read the 2-3 posts after your exaggerated one. I’ll ask you if you read the 148,935 or so posts which talk about how far the reps have come today and the tells on the specific models.

If you want to talk about gens, I own a nice collection of them and if you want to talk about reps, I work on a plethora of them too. What’s your sample size for each side of the game to make such sweeping statements about replicas and how they can be called out? Nobody is claiming they are gens but they have evolved to a point where they can’t be just called out without scrutiny on the wrist in the wild at 10m or even 5. That’s just a simple fact and you just cannot reasonably claim otherwise.

No need to read the 148,935 posts you've made. I know how good Reps have come. Just look at the Pepsi bezel that turns almost the same shade of color under UV light as the gen. That's impressive. I also never said reps are shit mate. I clearly wouldn't be wearing a rep around these rich people neighborhoods in NY if I thought they were poor quality vs the gens. I don't like being called out and wouldn't take that risk.

This whole conversation is being derailed for a simple joke I said (that clearly wasn't a good one). I don't have super powers and dont have magnifying glasses inside my eye balls. Far from it. But i'll just end this here to say that If i say the earth it round and you say the earth is flat, that is what you believe and what you might have witnessed your self. I cannot read your brain to know you're telling the truth and if you're lying. So if you can't see certain things that distinguish a rep from a gen watch, that's your deal. Not mine. As I said I can see certain things like finish, crystal, date wheel being over magnified, etc. Let's all agree to disagree on a pointless argument

 

[TonyMonatana44]

Yes. I know people in Switzerland too.

Congrats. No offense but It was much quieter when you were in RWI jail or banned or whatever. Welcome back I guess.

 

[TonyMonatana44]

Don't believe you. Prove it.

DIY GMT Master Crystal Replacement

Really nice work bro, congrats. Solid hit on both date mag and sitting height. You didn't mention crystal gasket shaving. Did you thin it? Also I would try something different with the hytrel ring before buying a gen click ring. A slightly thicker hytrel ring (or fishline) will tighten up the...

forum.replica-watch.info

There you go m8.

I'll update that thread as soon as my Gen xtal comes in to make your boat float a little happier.

 

[Storm.]

Congrats. No offense but It was much quieter when you were in RWI jail or banned or whatever. Welcome back I guess.

DIY GMT Master Crystal Replacement

Really nice work bro, congrats. Solid hit on both date mag and sitting height. You didn't mention crystal gasket shaving. Did you thin it? Also I would try something different with the hytrel ring before buying a gen click ring. A slightly thicker hytrel ring (or fishline) will tighten up the...

forum.replica-watch.info

There you go m8.

I'll update that thread as soon as my Gen xtal comes in to make your boat float a little happier.

I won't believe it until a Swiss person confirms it.

 

[TonyMonatana44]

I won't believe it until a Swiss person confirms it.

You're slowly starting to grow on me, only if your jokes were a little funnier. But I am a nobody on RWI, yet. Might never be a somebody either.

Will a Canadian do instead of a Swiss? They all talk french so it's as close as it gets.

 

[Storm.]

You're slowly starting to grow on me, only if your jokes were a little funnier. But I am a nobody on RWI, yet. Might never be a somebody either.

Will a Canadian do instead of a Swiss? They all talk french so it's as close as it gets.

Wasn't a bad comeback for a boomer. Good for you.

 

[TonyMonatana44]

Wasn't a bad comeback for a boomer. Good for you.

I appreciate it

 

[Mjh2k4]

Ok, so is this a rep or real? Only an expert can tell obviously.



Or just freaking cool?

 

[TonyMonatana44]

Ok, so is this a rep or real? Only an expert can tell obviously.



Or just freaking cool?

Just freaking cool would be my guess

 

[g00n]

This whole conversation is being derailed for a simple joke I said (that clearly wasn't a good one).

 

[Storm.]

 

[legend]

I don't have super powers and dont have magnifying glasses inside my eye balls. Far from it.

Yes we are in agreement. I’ll just get out of your hair now. It looks like @Storm. is determined to camp in it.

All good no harm done.

 

[Storm.]

Yes we are in agreement. I’ll just get out of your hair now. It looks like @Storm. is determined to camp in it.

All good no harm done.

I'm on it.

 

[TonyMonatana44]

Yes we are in agreement. I’ll just get out of your hair now. It looks like @Storm. is determined to camp in it.

All good no harm done.

That sounds juicy hahaha