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Hi guys,

I'm very much a newbie, to both watches in general and even more so to replica watches. So I bought a gen Rolex earlier this year, which I love but don't want to wear day to day for obvious reasons, it's more a weekend and going out with the Mrs type watch.

So it has given me the buzz for watches.... Which I don't know is a good or bad thing! I'm now looking for something cheaper to wear everyday, which brought me to this forum. Now, I'm probably asking this in the wrong place (bearing in mind this is a replica watch forum!) but would I be better spending my money on a really good replica or a low end gen watch (an example i have looked at is a Christopher ward C63 Valour) i have around £500-600 to spend.... Thoughts and advice would be very much appreciated.

As I say, very much a newbie in all areas so any thoughts and advice is warmly welcomed.
 
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You can get a really good top factory watch for 500 - 600 Pound. It would help to know what style and manufacturer of watch you are looking for in a daily driver. Rolex, Breitling, Cartier, Patek AP etc... The more info the better and the members here can help give you advice.
 
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Well, there is no right answer, so it depends on your planned use and overall desire of appearance. If you want reliability above all else, the genuine is probably your best route. If you want a stand in for your genuine, then high end replica since top tier makers like VSF and clean are solid on build quality and generally good on reliability
 

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You can get a really good top factory watch for 500 - 600 Pound. It would help to know what style and manufacturer of watch you are looking for in a daily driver. Rolex, Breitling, Cartier, Patek AP etc... The more info the better and the members here can help give you advice.
Thanks for the quick response! So I've been looking at some of the omega speedmasters and also the panerai Luna rossa (which is definitely much cheaper!). Then also had a look and would consider one of the Rolex Daytona's all on andiot website. I realise there are some differences in watch types there, but it's just what I like the look of. Obviously build quality is a serious consideration and as it would be a daily driver I would like it to be pretty hard wearing.
 

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If it's a daily I would stay away from any chronograph except Daytonas and especially Speedmasters. They don't have a clone movement so the dimensions are all wrong. The chronograph movement used in reps is an asian 7750 clone which is less than bulletproof. The Luna Rossa looks great but it's slightly thicker than gen. If you want something that can handle daily use, look very accurate and have a great finish I would look at the top factory Rolex clones. Clean Explorers, VSF 40mm Explorer, Clean Daytonas, Clean GMTs etc. They're a great starting point for a new rep collector.
 
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you need factor in a few things.

what style of watch do you want every day, does it have two, three, four or more hands and/or complications. In general the more complications the higher price whether its gen or rep.... and rep ones don't alway "replicate" the way the gen one works.

And on a pretty limited budge for a gen 500-600 isn't going to get you a top tier genuine watch - it may get you a modified 775x movement or something in a nice case from one of the microbrands ( CW you mentioned but there are LOADS of UK microbrands ). start here to see styles/companies https://www.microbranduk.co.uk/

Whereas £500-600 will get you into a really decent rep VSF or SBF 4130/4131 12 series Daytona ( newest 2023/24 version ) ...... and it'll work as per gen mostly and with a few simple upgrades that are not hard nor expensive ( better crystal and waterproofing ) will be able to used in most occasions from dress to dirt!!!!! Then you'll sell your Gen Rolex and wonder why you bothered :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: and then you are down the rabbit hole with the rest of us here!

On the other hand, a simple no-date submariner from a high end rep factory like VSF will be pretty much indistinguishable from the gen for 99.9% of the population and take you anywhere.... Has not got many polished sides, so it takes more a beating, it has a great glidelock micro adjustment so its comfortable and as for servicing a few people here on forum and in UK will service one of those when/if it breaks for not much money at all.

Or just get a rep of the Rolex model ( you didnt say which you had ) that you have - and just wear that day to day and keep the goody for best...

so much choice, so little time.... but its down to you buddy.. have fun chasing

( oh and someone will say "can YOU wear the watch".... by that they mean does your lifestyle look like you can walk around in a £150k AP or Meteorite Daytona.... if it doesnt fit YOU.... then you will get called out and do you want that as you daily beater )..
 
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If it's a daily I would stay away from any chronograph except Daytonas and especially Speedmasters. They don't have a clone movement so the dimensions are all wrong. The chronograph movement used in reps is an asian 7750 clone which is less than bulletproof. The Luna Rossa looks great but it's slightly thicker than gen. If you want something that can handle daily use, look very accurate and have a great finish I would look at the top factory Rolex clones. Clean Explorers, VSF 40mm Explorer, Clean Daytonas, Clean GMTs etc. They're a great starting point for a new rep collector.
Thank you for that, that's really helpful. So the the better factories to look at are Clean and VSF according to the responses on here??
 

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Thank you for that, that's really helpful. So the the better factories to look at are Clean and VSF according to the responses on here??
a good consulting answer... It depends on which brand and factory..... thats where the forum is great, pick the model, go the the forum subpage and read up - youlll learn loads its really interesting.. but for rolex yes stick to VSF and Clean.... Panerai itll be VSF mostly....some old Factory ones...
 

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you need factor in a few things.

what style of watch do you want every day, does it have two, three, four or more hands and/or complications. In general the more complications the higher price whether its gen or rep.... and rep ones don't alway "replicate" the way the gen one works.

And on a pretty limited budge for a gen 500-600 isn't going to get you a top tier genuine watch - it may get you a modified 775x movement or something in a nice case from one of the microbrands ( CW you mentioned but there are LOADS of UK microbrands ). start here to see styles/companies https://www.microbranduk.co.uk/

Whereas £500-600 will get you into a really decent rep VSF or SBF 4130/4131 12 series Daytona ( newest 2023/24 version ) ...... and it'll work as per gen mostly and with a few simple upgrades that are not hard nor expensive ( better crystal and waterproofing ) will be able to used in most occasions from dress to dirt!!!!! Then you'll sell your Gen Rolex and wonder why you bothered :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: and then you are down the rabbit hole with the rest of us here!

On the other hand, a simple no-date submariner from a high end rep factory like VSF will be pretty much indistinguishable from the gen for 99.9% of the population and take you anywhere.... Has not got many polished sides, so it takes more a beating, it has a great glidelock micro adjustment so its comfortable and as for servicing a few people here on forum and in UK will service one of those when/if it breaks for not much money at all.

Or just get a rep of the Rolex model ( you didnt say which you had ) that you have - and just wear that day to day and keep the goody for best...

so much choice, so little time.... but its down to you buddy.. have fun chasing

( oh and someone will say "can YOU wear the watch".... by that they mean does your lifestyle look like you can walk around in a £150k AP or Meteorite Daytona.... if it doesnt fit YOU.... then you will get called out and do you want that as you daily beater )..
Thanks for the help!! Yes tbh I was staying away from the Daytona's until I saw one I liked, because even the cheaper ones would be unrealistic for me to wear... But thanks for the advice!
 

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a good consulting answer... It depends on which brand and factory..... thats where the forum is great, pick the model, go the the forum subpage and read up - youlll learn loads its really interesting.. but for rolex yes stick to VSF and Clean.... Panerai itll be VSF mostly....some old Factory ones...
Thanks for the response, that's really good advice.... I'm already seriously down this rabbit hole so will be fun doing the research!
 
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oh also look here... its a replica forum but we are all pretty much watch nuts, so lots of people have info on gens under a grand ok... this may help

 
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I'm not opposed to low end gen watches. If you find one interesting or that you like go for it. Microbrands, Zelos, etc.

However if you want something basic like a Rolex Datejust, save your money, get a rep instead of those.
 

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Hi guys,

I'm very much a newbie, to both watches in general and even more so to replica watches. So I bought a gen Rolex earlier this year, which I love but don't want to wear day to day for obvious reasons, it's more a weekend and going out with the Mrs type watch.

So it has given me the buzz for watches.... Which I don't know is a good or bad thing! I'm now looking for something cheaper to wear everyday, which brought me to this forum. Now, I'm probably asking this in the wrong place (bearing in mind this is a replica watch forum!) but would I be better spending my money on a really good replica or a low end gen watch (an example i have looked at is a Christopher ward C63 Valour) i have around £500-600 to spend.... Thoughts and advice would be very much appreciated.

As I say, very much a newbie in all areas so any thoughts and advice is warmly welcomed.
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you need factor in a few things.

what style of watch do you want every day, does it have two, three, four or more hands and/or complications. In general the more complications the higher price whether its gen or rep.... and rep ones don't alway "replicate" the way the gen one works.

And on a pretty limited budge for a gen 500-600 isn't going to get you a top tier genuine watch - it may get you a modified 775x movement or something in a nice case from one of the microbrands ( CW you mentioned but there are LOADS of UK microbrands ). start here to see styles/companies https://www.microbranduk.co.uk/

Whereas £500-600 will get you into a really decent rep VSF or SBF 4130/4131 12 series Daytona ( newest 2023/24 version ) ...... and it'll work as per gen mostly and with a few simple upgrades that are not hard nor expensive ( better crystal and waterproofing ) will be able to used in most occasions from dress to dirt!!!!! Then you'll sell your Gen Rolex and wonder why you bothered :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: and then you are down the rabbit hole with the rest of us here!

On the other hand, a simple no-date submariner from a high end rep factory like VSF will be pretty much indistinguishable from the gen for 99.9% of the population and take you anywhere.... Has not got many polished sides, so it takes more a beating, it has a great glidelock micro adjustment so its comfortable and as for servicing a few people here on forum and in UK will service one of those when/if it breaks for not much money at all.

Or just get a rep of the Rolex model ( you didnt say which you had ) that you have - and just wear that day to day and keep the goody for best...

so much choice, so little time.... but its down to you buddy.. have fun chasing

( oh and someone will say "can YOU wear the watch".... by that they mean does your lifestyle look like you can walk around in a £150k AP or Meteorite Daytona.... if it doesnt fit YOU.... then you will get called out and do you want that as you daily beater )..
Out interest, you mentioned here about sticking in a better crystal and waterproofing. How easy is it to do that??
 

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Out interest, you mentioned here about sticking in a better crystal and waterproofing. How easy is it to do that??
plenty of "how to's on the tech section of the forum". however, unless you've the tools and knowledge the easiest way is to send it to one of the rep friendly watchsmiths here on the forum, they do these all the time - so its much quicker and easier and cheap enough to do. The crystals ( DEEP or PROF ) for the newer rolex models, cost of buying crystal and replacement comes in under £100.... you source the crystal and send with watch to watch smith - couple days later ( depending how busy they are of course ) they send back.
 

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plenty of "how to's on the tech section of the forum". however, unless you've the tools and knowledge the easiest way is to send it to one of the rep friendly watchsmiths here on the forum, they do these all the time - so its much quicker and easier and cheap enough to do. The crystals ( DEEP or PROF ) for the newer rolex models, cost of buying crystal and replacement comes in under £100.... you source the crystal and send with watch to watch smith - couple days later ( depending how busy they are of course ) they send back.
Thanks so much. Extremely helpful
 
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Short answer, it depends. You are here, on a rep forum so it would seem you have a passing interest in reps and have a budget that would certainly look at some better offering from clean and VSF as others have mentioned, but you can also look at some brands like Hamilton and Oris (used) on the Swiss side and if you are looking for dress options or even solid sport, you might consider a Seiko presage or divers model. The advantage to better know brands is generally serviceability (although CW does use standard movements so it shouldn’t be a problem). That and the joy of owning a gen piece.

All that being said, once you decide on a style, you will have plenty of options. Go with what excites you.
 
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Hi guys,

I'm very much a newbie, to both watches in general and even more so to replica watches. So I bought a gen Rolex earlier this year, which I love but don't want to wear day to day for obvious reasons, it's more a weekend and going out with the Mrs type watch.

So it has given me the buzz for watches.... Which I don't know is a good or bad thing! I'm now looking for something cheaper to wear everyday, which brought me to this forum. Now, I'm probably asking this in the wrong place (bearing in mind this is a replica watch forum!) but would I be better spending my money on a really good replica or a low end gen watch (an example i have looked at is a Christopher ward C63 Valour) i have around £500-600 to spend.... Thoughts and advice would be very much appreciated.

As I say, very much a newbie in all areas so any thoughts and advice is warmly welcomed.
Hi @wordyxxx82

Welcome to the RWI Forums and Community!

For GBP/EURO 500-600, you can get a very nice replica watch as a nice weekend watch to go out with.

As some members have advised against Chronograph watches, it is to some true extent that of course a more complicated movement watch will tend to break down easier than a non complications watch. However it all depends on the pattern of usage and how well you take care of the watch per say. In general, go with the big name Factories like VSF, ZF, QF, Clean for the reps if you wish to get.

If there is anything I can help, do drop me a PM here or EMAIL @ [email protected]

I will be most pleased to assist you.

You can browse my website too (check the signature link)

Thank you.