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KW PAM382, Details = PERFECT?

jonnyknox

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For me the KW-"offer" is a big joke!

On May 25th: "Release in 10 days"

Weeks later: "Start to Shipping at 20 May"

Today: 05th june = still nothing

IMHO they just wanted to disrupt the ZF-release and now they are under pressure fixing issues...
 

ikiestik

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I'm not regretting my decision in getting zf at all. It looks awesome on the wrist and I am willing to live with the minor flaws. The bezel is an easy fix with some patience and perseverance. Bezel pearl looks great while not that close to gen. Cg corners are another easy fix. The cg inner corners look same as gen as does the case, dial, hands, dw font.

I managed to totally centre the dial, dwo and bezel markers. My bezel is now tighter and more central. Overall it is a great watch with a full bronze case for an amazing £300.

I feel bad for guys in line for kw, you have been led on with the promise of a better watch and will be ready in 10 days, now its 1.5 months overdue.

Admittedly there have been qc issues with zf but after a service/bit of tinkering zf is a cracking watch and is currently my daily watch.

There is no doubt zf is actual bronze and I believe it is CuSn8. While kw could still turn out to be bras or bronze plated as there are no tests and no owners to clarify its material.
 

rhaykal

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I love my ZF and it's constantly on my wrist too. I hope those waiting on the KW final version will be happy with it. I do believe it'll be real bronze (although that is just a preliminary guess of course). The CG definitely does look great on it. Do I wish I waited? Nope. as mentioned many times before, the ZF with a little tinkering is plenty for me but the KW will hopefully shape up to be a great release as well for those waiting....And while the constant pushing back is kind of absurd, I think it is a great gesture that KW is offering up a little something for those who pre-ordered. I have owned one KW watch (505v1KW) it was a stellar watch. I am also hoping to get one of their 417s down the line
 

paneristi351

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Seems if KW can't rls the "right" watch ASAP, there will be a disaster for their credit.
 

Thrasher

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Does anyone have any Idea how many ZFs are still on the Market? Is ZF really making a V2 with fixes and how many KW will really be in the first Batch of KWs? I imagine some people will just go whatever and buy another PAM they have wanted or that NOOB sea Dweller... OR GOD forbid one of those super ugly ROOs:picard2:
 

ganlinia

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do KW make good rep? indeed for many.

do KW have good business practices & ethics? doubtful to me.

just look at how this thread started & that tortured x factory 382 photo shown in the intention of diminishing competition.
 

rolexwatchfan

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All ya'll ZFac lovers, somehow I don't see you posting pics of your watches in Calling all Bronzo owners thread. There would be a place to share your pride and enthusiasm for your watch not here. This is the KW 328 release thread, wait for it, talk about it but keep your ZFac thread crapping out of it. If you're so interested in V2 release, make yourself appropriate thread and you can talk shit there, all day long. With all due respect.
 

Sultan Brunei

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So,


Can anyone help me identify,
is this the long awaited KW version or ............?


a1_zpsd082ade3.jpg~original


b_zpsa4f510bf.jpg~original


c_zps6cd56c1f.jpg~original


d_zps0b4ab928.jpg~original
 

rolexwatchfan

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ZFac look at the minute indices, KW gen like touches the pearl whereas this one does not. Simple.

Here's KW "sample" pic:

PAM3823.jpg


One of the reasons Im waiting for KW release.
 

minge

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ZFac look at the minute indices, KW gen like touches the pearl whereas this one does not. Simple.

Here's KW "sample" pic:

PAM3823.jpg


One of the reasons Im waiting for KW release.

Looking at the Gen, the KW pearl ( Edit:- position ) does not seem entirely correct either?

OQJkBtR.jpg


HXGDpQj.jpg
 

kilowattore

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Looking at the Gen, the KW pearl does not seem entirely correct either?

OQJkBtR.jpg


HXGDpQj.jpg

Well, actually the wrong pearl is the biggest issue of kw version and the reason it has not been teleased yet. They're trying to fix it ;)
 

kilowattore

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I think you're right about the position, marker seems to touch the pearl in kw, but again we'll see when it's out :)

Btw, Toro uploaded some new pics on his website, there's already a thread... are we there?

IMG_5295-300x300.JPG
 

Sultan Brunei

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I think you're right about the position, marker seems to touch the pearl in kw, but again we'll see when it's out :)

Btw, Toro uploaded some new pics on his website, there's already a thread... are we there?

IMG_5295-300x300.JPG

This one, the big pearl is green. It is still the same color with the first time KW released his pre order pictures. (Which is wrong color)
 

kilowattore

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This one, the big pearl is green. It is still the same color with the first time KW released his pre order pictures. (Which is wrong color)

it seemed more white on my phone... :/
 

Sultan Brunei

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Question is, Is it KW or is it ZF ?
My local dealer said it is KW version... It is ready stock and if I want to buy, he would deliver it to me straight away.
Maybe someone can help identify from the movement ?
 

YakelkuN

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Dunno ZF or KW but the pearl seems totally missaligned on the picture (might be good but not on pict.)...