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KW 312O v2 w/ ST2555--WOW!!!

pigface

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Can someone enlighten me Kuvarist site has a version 3 with a modified A7750 to look more like gen.
Great review by the way.
 

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ALE7575

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Ale any thoughts on the version 3? It seems that the V1 and V3 both contain the A-7750.V2 is the seagull and $100 diference in price from the seagull to the A-7750 wonder if its worth it.

Leaving aside movement all is the same
New movement KP9000-V2 fitting KW 312 V3 is very accurate but balance wheel remains @11 instead of @7
Read PAM GUIDE for PAM 382 you can see there the comparison pics of the new movement
Seagull is more sure and reliable and cheaper but layout is inverted
Up to you
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set2374

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Leaving aside movement all is the same
New movement KP9000-V2 fitting KW 312 V3 is very accurate but balance wheel remains @11 instead of @7
Read PAM GUIDE for PAM 382 you can see there the comparison pics of the new movement
Seagull is more sure and reliable and cheaper but layout is inverted
Up to you
ALE
There are pro's and con's with both movements. The 2555 is known to be a reliable movement and looks close to gen IMO. If it does break though, sourcing parts is not easy. The A7750's are a $100 more, look good but the balance wheel is an easy tell. On the other hand they are easy to service since the parts are everywhere. That said, you can get a parnis Pam homage with an ST2555 for a $100 if you need to swap a movement or use it for spares.
 

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There are pro's and con's with both movements. The 2555 is known to be a reliable movement and looks close to gen IMO. If it does break though, sourcing parts is not easy. The A7750's are a $100 more, look good but the balance wheel is an easy tell. On the other hand they are easy to service since the parts are everywhere. That said, you can get a parnis Pam homage with an ST2555 for a $100 if you need to swap a movement or use it for spares.

I agree
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Great write-up and beautiful choice. I recently acquired a ZF Pam 312 and it hasn't left my wrist since!

Could you please post few pics from that ZF-version. I used to have KW model, but I could not stand the brownish text in dial. It is a instant tell, but that wasn't bothering me, I was bothered by how it made dial look somehow "dirty". That's a matter of taste of course. Now I'm planning to acquire 312 from ZF and would love to see how it looks in a flesh.
 

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Could you please post few pics from that ZF-version. I used to have KW model, but I could not stand the brownish text in dial. It is a instant tell, but that wasn't bothering me, I was bothered by how it made dial look somehow "dirty". That's a matter of taste of course. Now I'm planning to acquire 312 from ZF and would love to see how it looks in a flesh.
I am not sure I follow you. The beige/cream, which panerai calls acrue (spelling?) was introduced on the O series on of the 312 as an update to the original white print. Other changes on the O series include a brushed case back ad opposed to polished steel on the older versions of the 312. In short, the KW 312O is dead on and probably the most accurate "on the wrist" pams to date.
 

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Since there was this discussion going on right when I ordered mine, I scrutinized a lot of pics while researching for my review, moreover I tried different camera and lights settings for my pics. No way I could have those inscriptions the same color as gen without heavily editing the pics. I came to the conclusion that they are indeed a bit darker. Oh well, for sure it is something impossible to notice in real life unless you have it side by side with a gen. :eek:hwell:
 

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I am not sure I follow you. The beige/cream, which panerai calls acrue (spelling?) was introduced on the O series on of the 312 as an update to the original white print. Other changes on the O series include a brushed case back ad opposed to polished steel on the older versions of the 312. In short, the KW 312O is dead on and probably the most accurate "on the wrist" pams to date.

To me it's clear that KW brown is much darker and I don't need gen to compare. I handeled gen. 312 few weeks ago in a local watch enthusiast meeting and I can tell you that difference is very visible. KW version is always darker in any lighting environments. And gen. dial does not look "dirty" to me like KW dial does. That is what I ment and that is why I'm asking pics about ZF version to see if it's any better in real life. Other than that KW watch is great.
 

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THAT'S NOT TRUE! I TESTED IT AND IT's SAPPHIRE:
"Hello! Now I got this too. Same version on st2555. But I got mineral glass, not sapphire(Is that ok?"
 

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Hello! Now I got this too. Same version on st2555. But I got mineral glass, not sapphire(Is that ok?

No! If I paid for it expecting it to be sapphire I would expect it to be. especially if the dealer listed it as sapphire.
 

magic2

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Thanks for this great review, couldn't resist any longer and ordered mine... :thanks: