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Honestly I think no Nautilus rep is actually really good, I mean I can't compare a Nautilus to something that has a Miyota movement Im sorry, but when we talk about a 30k watch that has an open caseback, the movement should not even dare to be a miyota inside (in my honest opinion). Now why they don't just use a closed caseback Nautilus make a super rep of that , put a reliable and CHEAP ETA clone inside is beyond me. Would make sense to do that from the beginning, I don't think most people buy a 600$ Nautilus rep because its EXACTLY the 5711 I think they want well... a NAUTILUS be it 3700 or 3800.