is the A7750 movement really such a piece of junk???

[houndoggie]

guys, what do you mean with "SERVICED"?

reading everywehere - GOT YOUR MOVEMENT SERVICED.

Thank you.

disassembled, cleaned, reassembled with proper oil, regulated.

 

[chiquito]

Yes, Swatch group has good watches. I do have an Tissot Seastar with an ETA movement, and it is magnificent!! I do have an Oris Titan Chronograph 1000 meter Titatnium diver with SS band, and the Valjoux movement has been flawless!!! I guess it just depends on who lays their grimy little hands on your watch... Of course, I think companies like Invicta just assemble the watch, and put the movement in the case with very little Quality control...if any. They probably receive the movement crude, and just throw it in there. Same with most watches that may use the A7750...you hope that you might be the lucky one!!! Like I said, I have never had any problems with mine, so I am happy. I love chronos, and I cannot see how anyone can justify buying a quartz chrono over an automatic chrono simply because they have heard the few horror stories of a7750 movements. They fail to realize that out of 20,000 or more of these movements sold a year... maybe 5-10-or 20 may have a simple flaw in them from lack of service...of course, let us not forget human user errors. Those percentages are pretty darn good compared to units sold of these movements. There are alot of human errors when it comes to handling an automatic watch...heck, I have read postings on this forum on members not knowing they have to shake, or wind the movement in order to get it ticking!!! That is just amazing!!!! I read one posting where a member did not know he had to unscrew the chrono reset button to get the chrono to reset!!!

 

[robbnj]

Of course, I think companies like Invicta just assemble the watch, and put the movement in the case with very little Quality control...if any. They probably receive the movement crude, and just throw it in there.

Sorry to disagree, but I doubt that Invicta would follow the same production practices as the rep assemblers do.

I'd be willing to wager that as a gen supplier, their movements are manufactured for them to a higher standard than ones that go into reps.

 

[chiquito]

The reps receive an asian version of the Eta, Valjoux, and Miyota. Invicta receives Eta, and another swiss version of the Eta which I cannot get seem to recall at the moment, but these movements are basically just thrown in there, without any consideration of quality control what so ever!!! I have had nothing but problems on all, and I mean all higher end chrono Valjoux movements from Invicta, and even on one eta Quartz movement, so they are most definitely cutting corners somewhere, and that is in the quality of the movement out of the package. Don't get me wrong, Invicta has beautiful watches, and good quality material...except on their higher priced swiss movements like the Valjoux. My brother purchased three Subaquas with the Valjoux movements, and all three had problems!!!

Of course, you can go get the movement serviced, but after spending anywhere from $900-$1800 on an Invicta Swiss Chrono, why would you want to spend more??? Of course, I spend 200-350 on a rep with a a7750 movement, and to service is 150---I am still ahead of the game, because not only am I spending much less, I also have a time piece with at least a name recognition, and not some Invicta on which everyone frowns on when you walk into an AD store!!! lol!!!! Of course, I would never take my REP to an AD store that sells that particular watch...never!!!

It is funny the look one receives at an AD when you are wearing the nicest Invicta money can buy, or the nicest Seiko, or Citizen money can buy, and you are looked at like a piece of s**t!!! Their first impressions are that this (guy is not going to buy, and he has no money...what the hell is he doing here wasting my time...God, why me!!!! This loser is not going to buy) ...and then he is looking to T.O. to his partner!!! hahaha!!! It is funny when I really do pop out that payment card, and he is looking from a distance with his jaw dropped!!!

 

[chiquito]

These sales people in AD stores think they are Gods now because they sell the best watches in the world, and if you are not already wearing a Rolex on your wrist, you are a loser!!! Hahaha!!!

 

[G30]

My first Asian 7750 is 3 or 4 year old rep, a PAM 243. So far, +2 or 3 seconds every coupla' days. I really don't want to have the watch gone over just yet... but...

Maybe I SHOULD have it serviced... ???

Nawww...

but...

Ehhh...

I probably should...

but... ???

 

[Kerbus]

These sales people in AD stores think they are Gods now because they sell the best watches in the world, and if you are not already wearing a Rolex on your wrist, you are a loser!!! Hahaha!!!

Yeah, it's ridiculous. I don't know very much about all of the workings of the innards of a watch, but I do my homework when it comes to checking out watches and when I sort of start "talking shop" to sales people, all too often I start to get clueless looks. Not good when your job is to sell items that cost into the thousands up thousands of dollars.

 

[TESLA760]

An snob AD that doesn't answer questions, or a TD that doesn't return your emails. Take your pick.

 

[TheFrug]

My first A7750 died within minutes, TD replaced it and it ran perfect for 2 years before dying. I'm happy with 2 years at that price, in fact new watch every 2 years for 20 years equals the price of 1 gen. I replaced that movement with a gen eta. I have a new a7750 watch that has kept perfect time for 6 months so far.

Personally I never service an A7750, I run it till it dies then replace it with a gen eta. A serviced rep movement may well be great but it will never be as good as a genuine verified Swiss movement (not the factory fitted junk in so called "Swiss" rep versions).

Power reserve on my gen eta's wipes the floor with my asians and the build quality of each individual part is of a higher standard than parts built in a Chinese "factory".

You can get a good quality eta movement for little more than the price of servicing an asian.

 

[Optimus Spine]

My first A7750 died within minutes, TD replaced it and it ran perfect for 2 years before dying. I'm happy with 2 years at that price, in fact new watch every 2 years for 20 years equals the price of 1 gen. I replaced that movement with a gen eta. I have a new a7750 watch that has kept perfect time for 6 months so far.

Personally I never service an A7750, I run it till it dies then replace it with a gen eta. A serviced rep movement may well be great but it will never be as good as a genuine verified Swiss movement (not the factory fitted junk in so called "Swiss" rep versions).

Power reserve on my gen eta's wipes the floor with my asians and the build quality of each individual part is of a higher standard than parts built in a Chinese "factory".

You can get a good quality eta movement for little more than the price of servicing an asian.

Yeah but hasn't ETA stopped the supply now? So we can expect to no longer find gen ETAs for purchase in the future.

 

[QinetiQ]

Yeah but hasn't ETA stopped the supply now? So we can expect to no longer find gen ETAs for purchase in the future.

No they haven't. That was just an idea of the Swatch Group CEO (now dead) Nicolas Hayek who wanted to encourage other watch manufacturers to invest in developing in-house movements by stopping supply of ETA movements to them. It never happened though

 

[dakiman]

This is my very first post but I just wanted to say how invaluable this information all is! I'm contemplating getting an A7750 as well and it seems like you can either (i) get it serviced or (ii) run it until it dies and replace it with an ETA 7750 (which, from what I can tell, only costs a "few" hundred bucks from ofrei's). Either way, I think i'm comfortable purchasing a A7750 movement!

Looking forward to this new "hobby"!

 

[TheFrug]

Personally I think the a7750 is a great little movement. If it dies immediately most TDs will make good by either repairing or replacing (ok sending it back is a PITA). But once running they tend to run well.

The main differences between my gen eta's and Asians is power reserve, nicer chrono (pusher clicks instead of crunches and rep reset can sometimes be violent enough to cause the chrono second hand to slip past the 12 position, my a7750 now resets to 2 secs past 12, it used to be 12). Oh and life expectancy.

 

[chiquito]

I personally think it is a matter of how you operate the push buttons on the chrono. you must never reset the chrono when the timing hand is towards the bottom parts of the dial, because it will shoot the timing hands past the twelve mark

 

[NORITUCK]

I personally think it is a matter of how you operate the push buttons on the chrono. you must never reset the chrono when the timing hand is towards the bottom parts of the dial, because it will shoot the timing hands past the twelve mark

So is it best to reset between the 12 and the 4? What about reset between the 8 and the 12? I just got my first 7750 and it works great right now. I'm thinking about having it seviced in the future. For now I limit my chrono use.

 

[Kerbus]

Here's a great thread that answers typical 7750 questions:

http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/...e-a7750-movement-72197?t=72197&highlight=7750

 

[J.Prime]

I've had long term experience with 4 watches housing these movements (2+years) and no issues. I've never really sweat about not having ETA, once the movement stops I will have it properly serviced and be good for many more years.

 

[TheFrug]

I personally think it is a matter of how you operate the push buttons on the chrono. you must never reset the chrono when the timing hand is towards the bottom parts of the dial, because it will shoot the timing hands past the twelve mark

That's the difference with the Asian and the gen, the Swiss version will reset nicely from any position. I can live with having to take more care on a rep because it is a cheap copy and so I don't expect gen performance. Service it and take care of the chronos etc and it will do well and last for years but will never truly give you gen performance in all areas. That's why I'll pay a few quid extra and get a gen rather than service an Asian. The gen I will then get serviced when it's due.

 

[chiquito]

Guys, you won't believe what just happened to me...my omega planet ocean chrono with the a7750 movement just crapped out on me!!! It was mostly my fault, but I released the crown and stem using the little release button on the movement casing, fixed the crown, put the crown back in, and wallah... A movement that is no longer ticking no matter what I do. First time I have ever had a problem with these movements. Any recomendations on what I can poke in there to get thing back up and running??

Lucky me huh?? Just what I needed. Oh well, I am going to check out my local wachmaker tomorrow to get an estimate. Any ideas?

 

[frodostar]

think its the luck of the draw had 3 bought from pc, and "touch wood" no shit yet, and at end of the day if it dies send it for a service which is the watch game, gen and rep, just take the plunge and hope for the best.

although gens do come with kiss ass customer service and returns not sure about reps!!!!!