How often do you reject QC?

[elusive1]

Check this: https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb...-nit-picking-is-getting-WAY-out-of-hand!-quot

I understand your point. But for $300 I would like the dial and bezel to align properly. And not to have hair stuck in the hour markers of the dial. I was very polite in my QC email so hopefully everything will work fine.

Next time I won't buy reps that have adjustable bezels or date windows. Just one less thing to go wrong.

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[theflyingdutchman]

I understand your point. But for $300 I would like the dial and bezel to align properly. And not to have hair stuck in the hour markers of the dial. I was very polite in my QC email so hopefully everything will work fine. Next time I won't buy reps that have adjustable bezels or date windows. Just one less thing to go wrong.
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... "properly" is a tough word with reps... keep it real for "just 300USD"... of course hair is a no go!

 

[Netbis71]

Thanks everyone for the advice. I did not compare my QC pic to gens. I just compared it to the pics from the seller's site which had better alignment on the markers.

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I also check qc pictures against PT video and website pics. The dealers samples are for sure one of the best, but it takes a trained eye to spot flaws.
Out of five purchased rejected three.
For unknown reason i found that bezel's 12 o'clock mark alignment is often a problem. The entire watch would look perfect and then rotated bezel mark doesn’t align with click @12. Is this really that hard to achieve when entire watch is made near to perfection?
And I think sometimes dealer (or factory) tries to offload a rejected piece by someone else. Unless you are a well known respected member here this may happen. Its part of the game to have patience and respect.
Cheers.

 

[elusive1]

... "properly" is a tough word with reps... keep it real for "just 300USD"... of course hair is a no go!

Yeah I totally understand. There's no guarantee the next watch will be any better i suppose! maybe the date window will be out of alignment ><

I also check qc pictures against PT video and website pics. The dealers samples are for sure one of the best, but it takes a trained eye to spot flaws.
Out of five purchased rejected three.
For unknown reason i found that bezel's 12 o'clock mark alignment is often a problem. The entire watch would look perfect and then rotated bezel mark doesn’t align with click @12. Is this really that hard to achieve when entire watch is made near to perfection?
And I think sometimes dealer (or factory) tries to offload a rejected piece by someone else. Unless you are a well known respected member here this may happen. Its part of the game to have patience and respect.
Cheers.

Thanks for the insight!

 

[ihs0yz]

Doesn't the gen 389 have the pearl off to the right as well? I honestly would've accepted the watch but that's because I'm new to this game. What exactly is it about the 389 that everyone wouldn't take? I see the bezel markers are a little off, the pearl's alignment is according to gen (I think) but the picture quality's really bad.

 

[elusive1]

Doesn't the gen 389 have the pearl off to the right as well? I honestly would've accepted the watch but that's because I'm new to this game. What exactly is it about the 389 that everyone wouldn't take? I see the bezel markers are a little off, the pearl's alignment is according to gen (I think) but the picture quality's really bad.

I was just concerned with the pearl and bezel marker alignment. The pictures and video on the seller's site show everything aligned pretty well. I think the picture online of the gen 389 has the bezel rotated one click to the right for some reason...

 

[elusive1]

Just got QC pictures of the replacement 389. Bezel lines up nicely now. But the date window is off center and the 45 bezel pip is missing paint might just accept it and try and fix myself. Feel bad to reject it a second time

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[ihs0yz]

Could the misaligned bezel from your last QC be fixed by removing it and realigning it or was it a print/paint/construction error? And does your TD not see the missing paint on the 45? That should be even more obvious than a misalignment, no?

 

[elusive1]

Could the misaligned bezel from your last QC be fixed by removing it and realigning it or was it a print/paint/construction error? And does your TD not see the missing paint on the 45? That should be even more obvious than a misalignment, no?

Hey man, I think it was a print and paint construction error. I asked for a few more pics of the 45 to see if it was missing paint or just dust.

This is my first order so I'm guessing its just part of the process. Some other people have said that once you are a more well known customer they do a better job of initial screening.

For the date wheel alignment I saw a thread on fixing it. But I honestly doubt I have the skills to take apart the movement and recenter it.

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[ihs0yz]

This is my first order so I'm guessing its just part of the process. Some other people have said that once you are a more well known customer they do a better job of initial screening.

I've not heard of that before! I guess newbies are at a disadvantage huh

Well anyway, keep us up to date. I've actually just ordered the 389 myself from Ryan, he's been really nice and I hope all turns out well. Have not received my QC pics.

 

[elusive1]

I've not heard of that before! I guess newbies are at a disadvantage huh

Well anyway, keep us up to date. I've actually just ordered the 389 myself from Ryan, he's been really nice and I hope all turns out well. Have not received my QC pics.

"Its all part of the game" so ive been told. I used pure time. Hoping your qc turns out good! I think the things to look for are bezel alignment , pearl quality, and date window alignment, and now I guess markers are painted lol.

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[elusive1]

And here is a straight on picture of the date wheel. Its a little too aligned to the top of the window.

So far I've accepted the omega sea master. First one had a hair in the 2 o clock lume marker but the second one looks fine. Going through some more QC on the second kW 389 and a little worried about 250 amplitude on the ap diver. Visually it looks ok but worried about the movement health.

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[elusive1]

Accepted final QC today on all 3 watches. Decided I'll just fix the missing paint on 45 bezel marker myself.

Everything else looked great and that will be such a minor fix that it wasn't worth asking for another watch and potentially new issues.

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[Maraach]

I've had this dilemma myself and views vary greatly. Really 2 camps on this one. Each have their own valid view.

Personally I disagree with the "it's a rep buy gen" sentiment. I own gen, and have had problems with and rejected them to. Gen's aren't the ticket to perfection you might be sold. Anyone who thinks gens are perfect spends too much time on the internet and not enough time owning them. 20 watches, half gen half rep. One of my *best* is a rep. One of my worst is a gen. A good watch is a good watch. All need servicing and some even run pretty good afterwards.

Panerai replaced my $13k watch twice due to serious movement issues and now it's on a 3-6 month vacation again. Like all things sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't. Go to the paneristi forums and you will soon learn it's not a one off case. I miss that watch :/

My view is it depends on the cost of the watch. Circa $200... Yeah I'm happy to live with flaws, it's a cheap watch. Weak lume, wrong font... Yeah.. you get that... When we are talking the $500+ ones though... Yeah I'm not buying the 700% Mark up crap. Paid pennies? Probably but that isnt reflected in what im paying and that money is going somewhere.. $500 buys many a nicely made swiss watch... Hamilton? Tissot? which strangely enough the dial will be straight on... and if not, I'd reject that one too.

QC needs to exist to some extent... it is helping the great makers get a well deserved good reputation. Most of these reps are sold as and priced as "not your canal street crap". If that's the case, and at 200-500% above canal street / Alibaba prices they need to be ok... if there are factories (and I suspect there is at least 1....) Who are currently selling sub par stuff wouldn't it be best if that was called out?

 

[Project78]

This forum has corrupted us, taken our innoscense and our virginity! I never worried about misallignments and stuff... If I liked a watch I bought it and enjoyed it. Maybe there were flaws just like these reps have, but I never knew even what to look for!! Through this forum I learned so much interesting info that I completely look differently at watches. When I see the watch shops in shopping malls selling Diesel, Festina, Time force etc with their quartz movements, I don't even bother to look at them any more!

 

[Farslayer]

My view is it depends on the cost of the watch. Circa $200... Yeah I'm happy to live with flaws, it's a cheap watch. Weak lume, wrong font... Yeah.. you get that... When we are talking the $500+ ones though... Yeah I'm not buying the 700% Mark up crap. Paid pennies? Probably but that isnt reflected in what im paying and that money is going somewhere.. $500 buys many a nicely made swiss watch... Hamilton? Tissot? which strangely enough the dial will be straight on... and if not, I'd reject that one too.

On average, "decent" to super rep watches ranges from $300-$600 from TDs. Tells and design flaws are just that, and can't be avoided. However, you bet I'm sending that manufacture defect back once I review it in my QC. People don't think of it as a $300-$600 item. Design flaws and manufacturing flaws are two completely different things. You should be ok with design flaws being that it's a rep. Being ok with manufacturing flaws is just ridiculous. The idea of of i'm purchasing a rep and not a gen is sooooo wrong. The idea of TD is hitting holiday season and is too busy to reply your email for 3 weeks is soooo wrong. They have a business to run. If their service sucks, you'll be stupid not to go to the next TD. Too many here just stick it out, making it OK to have no communication or manufacturer defects.

Would you buy your $500 G-Shock if you paid for it 1 month in advance, have absolutely no communication afterwards? You know it'll come with crooked numbers, possible unstable movement that might break down in a day or week or under a year and be absolutely ok with it?

 

[C Master]

I have not rejected a watch yet. I trust my TD and his advice. There is never anything that I can spot that he has not already pointed out to me. Flaws on a replica I can live with. The excitement of getting the watch is my thrill really, QCs get in the way lol.

 

[elusive1]

I have not rejected a watch yet. I trust my TD and his advice. There is never anything that I can spot that he has not already pointed out to me. Flaws on a replica I can live with. The excitement of getting the watch is my thrill really, QCs get in the way lol.

Can I ask which TD you use that will check the QC for you before hand ?

This forum has corrupted us, taken our innoscense and our virginity! I never worried about misallignments and stuff... If I liked a watch I bought it and enjoyed it. Maybe there were flaws just like these reps have, but I never knew even what to look for!! Through this forum I learned so much interesting info that I completely look differently at watches. When I see the watch shops in shopping malls selling Diesel, Festina, Time force etc with their quartz movements, I don't even bother to look at them any more!

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[Project78]

[MENTION=116689]elusive 1[/MENTION] Hi, I don't know the relation between my comment and your question. I never said I don't do QC. On the contrary!

 

[elusive1]

[MENTION=116689]elusive 1[/MENTION] Hi, I don't know the relation between my comment and your question. I never said I don't do QC. On the contrary!

Sorry about that mate, misquoted your post on tap a talk. Merry Christmas !

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