How crappy is an asian copy ETA movement?

[Klink]

I have both cn and eta, like many.. and cannot tell any difference as to service they give..

oh well...

Life is Good!

Is good to know what is what.. if it really makes a difference as to service performance and life..

:shock:

 

[olivia]

@LWA, and qyote LWA

To my knowledge for a movemnt to be considered swiss it has to be 51% swiss parts and assembled in Switzerland.

You are 100% right.. of course, that does presume 100% honesty, and not one forged invoice or bill of lading.. lol

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Klink

Lol...presumed honesty in replica business... now that is a non sequitur.
Don't believe anything you see or read on a replica. By definition it is a lie. [smilie=icon_salut.gif]

This does not mean that dealers are not honest people. But applies to the PRODUCT.

 

[pugwash]

Lol...presumed honesty in replica business... now that is a non sequitur.
Don't believe anything you see or read on a replica. By definition it is a lie. [smilie=icon_salut.gif]

Oh boy. You're new here, aren't you.

 

[olivia]

Lol...presumed honesty in replica business... now that is a non sequitur.
Don't believe anything you see or read on a replica. By definition it is a lie. [smilie=icon_salut.gif]

Oh boy. You're new here, aren't you.

No, I am not Pugwash. But, I don't have many posts on RWI. Well known by Klink, especially on this topic. Spent most of my time on RWG, little time on RWGII. So don't start that NOOB BS with me!! :twisted:

 

[Klink]

Olivia, looks like maybe PW was just taking the mick..

you know the rwi policy is to be polite.. well, at least that

is the goal..



At any rate, a pleasure to see you posting!

(Hooray!!)

Life is Good!
Klink

 

[olivia]

Olivia, looks like maybe PW was just taking the mick..

you know the rwi policy is to be polite.. well, at least that

is the goal..



At any rate, a pleasure to see you posting!

(Hooray!!)

Life is Good!
Klink

Of course...my apology to PW. RWG habits are hard to kick. But PW made a comment about me...not the topic at hand. That should also be discouraged, IMHO.

 

[pugwash]

No, I am not Pugwash. But, I don't have many posts on RWI. Well known by Klink, especially on this topic. Spent most of my time on RWG, little time on RWGII. So don't start that NOOB BS with me!! :twisted:

Thanks for playing.

Noob BS? I was referring to the fact that this "Dealers scamming us" concept is a current hot topic. The point of view that we deserve to get scammed because we're dealing in illegal trades has largely been shown to be a fallacy by the majority of the experienced members. It's a hot topic elsewhere and I must say I disagree with you exceedingly strongly.

 

[horologie_unitas]

The company ETA which was manufacturing formerly in switzerland produces in the meantime all over Europe'
especially former east- bloc countries, Thailand, Malaysia and China.
for different purposes and clients- there are lots of different grades produced.
No shit...there are real chinese ETA - Russian ETA - malayan ETA.....but you sure will not find a swiss made ETA in a Rep.....but for sure in a gen Breitling, Panerai etc. for 3-5.000 USD....what a bullshit.
Every gen buyer is being screwed....with paying 10 times what the watch is actually worth....and i am positive that 60-80% of all parts of most gen watches are produced in ASIA.
my swiss ETA....and my asian ETA...work just fine....since a few years....yawn....and a stamp on the movement doesnt mean...ANYTHING !!
Do you think your Mercedes Benz is MADE IN GERMANY - sure it is....about 20 % of all the parts are made in germany !!
thats how it works today.....production gets cheaper and cheaper...the item more and more expensive....and the CEO's cash in MULTI MILLION salarys.

 

[olivia]

The company ETA which was manufacturing formerly in switzerland produces in the meantime all over Europe'
especially former east- bloc countries, Thailand, Malaysia and China.
for different purposes and clients- there are lots of different grades produced.
No shit...there are real chinese ETA - Russian ETA - malayan ETA.....but you sure will not find a swiss made ETA in a Rep.....but for sure in a gen Breitling, Panerai etc. for 3-5.000 USD....what a bullshit.
Every gen buyer is being screwed....with paying 10 times what the watch is actually worth....and i am positive that 60-80% of all parts of most gen watches are produced in ASIA.
my swiss ETA....and my asian ETA...work just fine....since a few years....yawn....and a stamp on the movement doesnt mean...ANYTHING !!
Do you think your Mercedes Benz is MADE IN GERMANY - sure it is....about 20 % of all the parts are made in germany !!
thats how it works today.....production gets cheaper and cheaper...the item more and more expensive....and the CEO's cash in MULTI MILLION salarys.

I agree totally. But, a stamp on a movement does not mean any more that "Swiss Made" on a dial of a rep with asian 21J Miyota movement which we have all seen. On reps you cannot assume to be true anything you see written on it. IT'S A REP....AKA, FAKE. But I like them.
I also believe that dealers, in most cases, only know what they are told by their suppliers. So, if they are told genuine swiss, they advertise as genuine swiss. But may not be, or may be hybrid, or whatever..

 

[Klink]

An educated consumer can make a reasoned choice as to watch and dealer both..

Yes, buyers should not be scammed..

and perhaps they might do just a tad of due diligence, for if they don't

we will kill all the dealers and take their watches!!

(well, maybe not for reals...)

Life is Good!
Klink

Just remember, I could not agree with you more!

 

[olivia]

No, I am not Pugwash. But, I don't have many posts on RWI. Well known by Klink, especially on this topic. Spent most of my time on RWG, little time on RWGII. So don't start that NOOB BS with me!! :twisted:

Thanks for playing.

Noob BS? I was referring to the fact that this "Dealers scamming us" concept is a current hot topic. The point of view that we deserve to get scammed because we're dealing in illegal trades has largely been shown to be a fallacy by the majority of the experienced members. It's a hot topic elsewhere and I must say I disagree with you exceedingly strongly.

Exactly what do you disagree with me on? I said that my comments did not apply to dealers...only the product. And yes it is/has been a HOT topic not only elsewhere, but for several years in many places, not just on replica forums.

 

[Klink]

@Olivia,

This just might be the pea under the mattress..

http://replica-watch.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14975

Life is Good!
Klink

 

[olivia]

@Olivia,

This just might be the pea under the mattress..

http://replica-watch.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14975

Life is Good!
Klink

I read it. Sounds frustrated, like "Little White Lies" on RWG2, but to Quote PW

"They're getting worse and it's time to stop.

I'd love to hear your opinions on how we can deal with it, but we need to do something as just telling the dealers hasn't worked for me."

Answer to PW...you can't deal with it....Dealers can't deal with it.
Looking for Truth in Advertising in the replica business is the absurdity of it all.

 

[watchlover]

Hmmmmm.. I sense a bit of Trolling here...

 

[olivia]

Hmmmmm.. I sense a bit of Trolling here...

Okay...if you call it trolling.. I will shut up.

 

[Klink]

I am trying to figure this out..

some dealers have found that if they bend the words a bit, they maybe have or hope to have more sales..

that is judged as dishonest..

there are dealers who make statements about personal inspection that are given absolute belief, their 'story' is

plastered all over the forum... and used as an example... so when i received..... from a certain dealer.....a watch

.....that was personally inspected........I cannot help but wonder at the condition of the watch I received.......and can only

conclude........that the inspection in question must have been performed by a blind monkey......

so, the issue is "TRUTH" - and that 'truth' is demanded by people who go to great lengths to find a counterfeit

watch, even many counterfeit watches, that they pass off as real.. the goal is to fool, to lie to, and to deceive people..

any other reason makes zero of sense...

so here we have the liars calling the liars liars...

hmmmmmm

and we cannot find out what is actually what? There are no people on this forum who know what is what as regards claims

by any given dealer? Is it more important to call dealers liars than to put some energy into knowing what it is we are doing?

A strange thing also.. if one asks a dealer "Does this watch has a synthetic crystal or a mineral crystal?" - well, it would be rather

unusual not to get the truth.. when in doubt, ask..

Either that, or buy all of your watches not from Wo-Mart... but from Wal-Mart, and then make the brand ''honest' Citizen..

then you can show people the truth,

not a lie that you wear on your wrist.


LOL

It only gets better!

Life is Good!
Liar Klink

 

[robertk]

Thank you Klink

 

[pugwash]

Answer to PW...you can't deal with it....Dealers can't deal with it.
Looking for Truth in Advertising in the replica business is the absurdity of it all.

That's it! That's the answer! Thank you!

Oh, can you take this call? It's the Arabs and Israelis and they wonder if you can solve their problems too. I hope you'll use your brilliant "Just cope" answer there, too.

ps. Yes, I checked. We're not in flame-free.
pps. Yes, this is more light-hearted than vicious.

Truth in advertising isn't just a desire, it's a legal requirement.

 

[olivia]

Light-hearted is the key sentiment here. :lol:

But as we all know, as Klink has pointed out, there are
1. Knowns
2. Unknowns
3. Unknown knowns
4. Unknown unknowns

and they are all built into all of my( and your) replicas.

 

[takashi]

Just my opinion on Asian movement... The longest lasting rep that I have on my collection up till today has a crappy Asian 21 jewel movement. it's a Rolex that has a rusty case that I got in China a few years back. It keeps good time too.