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Horology history and the oldest watch brands

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LOL, I haven't seen Rolex "G" as he was known back then for a long while, he was also a Car collector who gave me a lot of work back then, for which I never charged. A very helpful contact back in the good old dayz.
I think I'll take a drive / look / ask around when we are in the royal bog hole of Englandshire in a few months time (y)
 

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One single hand and yet still set to 10:10 :)
 

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One single hand and yet still set to 10:10 :)

This just reminded me of a mate in England who actually does collect gen Omegas and a few others, and last time I saw him on our pre Christmas tour he actually asked me why advertised Watches always read 10 past 10 :ROFLMAO:
 

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Thank for the time and effort put into the Breguet history, absolutely fascinating.

I do believe that Rolex still has a repair facility in Kent, I remember my homologise mentioning it recently.
 
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Sorry, that should have said horologis!
 

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Some notes on the oldest watch brands – Breguet 1775
(Part 2/2)


It's been a while, better get this finished and move on. This second part will focus on the brand/company history rather than the man.

Breguet can be considered the world's first watch celebrity. No other before him and many years after him had as widespread notoriety as he did. From a brand perspective, a"Breguet" watch was worth a premium over other watches. For this reason Breguet watches can claim to be the first brand that was counterfeited.

We've seen how the Brown family took over the company after Breguet's death and the loss of interest of his descendants.
Under the Browns, Breguet vegetated under the radar until Parisian jewellers Jacques and Pierre Chaumet bought and tried to revive it.

The Chaumet is a brand with an interesting history itself. This company also changed hands many times. Suffice it to say, Chaumet's predecessors started their activities as jewellers in 1780 in Place Vendome, Paris, and their clientele was the royal court'S nobility. They managed to withstand the French Revolution later becoming to the Napoleonic Empire. They were not as lucky after the 1848 revolution, so they opened another shop in London were they flourished again boasting clients lie Queen Victoria. Chaumet was successful in being constantly on top of then contemporary design and artistic trends. World War II provided for a break of their activities but they promptly restarted in 1944. If previously modern art movements were the primary source of inspiration for the jewellers, in the post war era fashion became the reference point. Chaumet's jewels adapted to complement the design of Chritian Dior's and Yves Saint Laurent's creations.

On the wave of their success, Chaumet decided to expand in the horology sector by buying a renowned watch brand like Breguet and (re-) positioning it in the high-end segment.

With success comes... greed. Headed by the brothers Jacques and Pierre Chaumet, the company filed for bankruptcy in 1987 with liabilities of 1.4 billion francs, eight times the annual turnover, in particular due to heavy losses in their diamond purchasing and resale business after the drop in prices worldwide. The two brothers were convicted of illegal banking activities for having opened accounts that promised high interest on the principal.
After their fraudulent bankruptcy, Chaumet was bought in 1987 by Investcorp, a leading Bahrain-based investment bank. The company lost 10 million francs in 1995–1997, but became profitable again in 1998, with a revenue of 280 million francs. In 1991, Investcorp created the Groupe Horloger Breguet (GHB). The Breguet Group consists of four subsidiaries: Montres Breguet SA, Breguet SA, Valdar SA and Nouvelle Lemania SA (which Breguet Group acquired in 1992). Breguet was eventually bought by the Swatch Group in 1999.

Although Breguet watches have become renowned in the last decades for their hand-engraved, silver plate over gold dials and cases with reeded edges and for their development of complicated inhouse movements, in the watch world they are often criticized for the lack of inventiveness, for capitalizing on the tradition which is exploited to the last bits instead of creating something original at the level of Breguet's historical achievements. In a nutshell, they're a money machine for a selected few and do not foster or promote real innovation.

 
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Superb! My favourite watchmaker of all time, I love the classic simplicity of the white enamel dials and also the complexity of the guilloche dials are a brilliant contrast. Thanks for the post and the photographs Feefo…a great read.👍
 
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Some notes on the oldest watch brands – Perrelet 1777

Perrelet is named after Abraham Louis Perrelet (1729 - 1826), horologist and "inventor". The date 1777 is sort of made up and must be taken just as reference, since not much of Perrelet's origin is documented. We'll get to that.

Born as a son of farmers and carpenters, he was apparently gifted with a certain degree of inventiveness and mechanical skills so allegedly went into watchmaking apprenticeship at the age of 20. It looks like his horology master was no good, so according to myth he went on his own and taught himself horology.

According to the Perrelet website, with 24 Abraham Louis moved to Paris to study with his renowned namesake Breguet, who "soon discovered the unique talent of this young watchmaker". I smell marketing here because I couldn't confirm this early contact between the two Abraham Louises with other common internet sources. Be that as it may, Perrelet was a gifted watchmaker, he invented and developed a number of new functions to optimize timepieces. He was the first in Le Locle to manufacture clocks with a cylinder gear and duplex escapement as well as with a perpetual calendar and equation of time. He created the ebauche and perfected the gear train, pinions, gears, escapement and winding mechanism. Among other things, he also invented tools and machines for the production and assembly of watches.
Foremost however, Perrelet is credited with the invention of the first self-winding automatic mechanism. Not without controversy though, since Hubert Sarton apparently also developed the mechanism around the same time.

In 1777, Professor Horace-Bénédict de Saussure, one of the founders of the Société des Arts de Genève, went on a research trip to Neuchâtel to visit watch factories and watchmakers. He informed the committee that a certain Mr. Perrelet, a watchmaker in Le Locle, had constructed a watch that wound itself in the pocket by the wearer's steps and then did not stop for eight days. Professor de Saussure's personal notes read: "I have just come from Mr. Perrelet, inventor of a watch that winds itself solely by the movements of its wearer...". As with almost every invention, there were initial difficulties, de Saussure continues: “He (Perrelet) had to redesign the first watch so that the winding mechanism did not overload the spring and thereby damage it. For example, a man's watch was broken due to his violent movements as he ran to the post office. He developed a mechanical separation of the winding mechanism and spring, a project that turned out to be anything but easy, but was solved to satisfaction." But that is not proof that Perrelet was the inventor. In fact his watch probably used a weight pivoting at the side of the movement. The first drawing and accurate description of an automatic watch with a central rotor was created in 1778 by the watchmaker Hubert Sarton and that design is attributed to him. In any case, it's proof of Perrelet's notable work. Breguet did frequent Perrelet at some point allegedly acquiring one of his watches and trying to improve the automatic mechanism.



Abraham Louis wasn't the last Perrelet doing watchmaking, his grandson Louis-Frédéric Perrelet (1781–1852) was trained by his grandfather and went into business in Paris later becoming Horologist to the court. Louis-Frédéric invented marine watches with measuring instruments and a split-second precision chronograph. Other successors remained in the watch business but the dedication slowly dwindled and died.



Until 1993, the rights of the Perrelet name were held by their direct descendants, who still live in the Neuchâtel Jura today. In 1993, the Ticino industrialist Flavio Audemars bought the naming rights. In 1995, the Perrelet brand returned to the watch world with a reinterpretation of the automatic movement drive: equipped with a double rotor with a flywheel visible on the dial side, Perrelet tried to be successful with a single product strategy.

Moving forward the brand had to fight against overpowering competitors. Over the next decade, Perrelet suffered financial difficulties and was relaunched one more time in 2004 by the Festina Group. Acquired in 2004 by Miguel Rodriguez of the Festina Group, appointed Marc Bernhardt as CEO of Perrelet in 2007, and under his direction, the company released a few highly regarded watches. These included watches with retrograde, jumping hour, and double-rotor complications. Introduction of these unique complications was met with resounding success compared to the initial 1995 revival.

Perrelets develops and produces movements and caliber entirely within its workshops. Previously Perrelet had always used ETA base movements for its timepieces. When the company was acquired in 2004, owner of the H5 group / Festina Group, Miguel Rodriguez, purchased the STM holding group, giving Perrelet access to the movement manufacturer Soprod. Perrelet can also take advantage of relationships with its sister companies in the Group, such as MM Ineltec, MHVJ and Astral, which produce various components for watch movements.

Perrelet's watches today place themselves in the sub 10k range. They show a notable lack of originality and univocal style, mostly capitalizing on their double rotor thing. Well, I don't like them. Alongside fairly simple designs reminiscent of Daniel Wellington and lazy notes such as "open heart dials", there's some fugly badass watches I keep asking myself "who buys this stuff"?

 

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@Feefo, thank you SO much for sharing all this info as well as the great pictures. This thread is absolutely fascinating! I'm going to need to read this a few times.
You ought to turn your posts into a book.
 
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Some notes on the oldest watch brands – Chaumet 1780

Next in chronological order is a brand which is known for its jewellery rather than its watches. As a matter of fact, Chaumet started as a jeweller and we already talked about it in the Breguet post, as they acquired the brand in 1970.
They started producing watches in the 19th century, joining forces with brands as Patek Philippe or JLC to produce them.

Founder of the brand is one Marie-Étienne Nitot (1750–1809) who set up workshop in Place Vendôme, Paris in 1780 after an apprenticeship with Aubert, then jeweller to Queen Marie-Antoinette. Nitot took over the aristocratic clientele who remained loyal to him until the French Revolution in 1789. But after this, the Nitot jewellery house really took off, becoming the official jeweller of Napoleon I in 1804. He and later his son François Regnault Nitot made renowned jewellery for the Empire and its nobility.
François Regnault took over on his father's death in 1809 and continued his activity until the fall of the Empire in 1815. Napoleon's exile caused Nitot, a fervent royalist, to withdraw from the jewellery house, selling the business to his foreman, Jean Baptiste Fossin (1786–1848).

Assisted by his son Jules (1808–1869), Fossin elegantly interpreted romantic jewellery pieces inspired by the arts of the Italian Renaissance and the French 18th century, but also naturalist-themed pieces. The elite of the period were won over and the family of Louis-Philippe, King of France from 1830 to 1848, as well as the Duchesse de Berry, succeeded Napoleon on the list of famous clients. After the French revolution of 1848, the activity of Maison Fossin slowed significantly in France, leading to the establishment of a boutique in London with a workshop entrusted to Jean-Valentin Morel (1794–1860) assisted by his son Prosper (born in 1825). They attracted a prestigious clientele which included Queen Victoria, who granted Jean-Valentin Morel a royal warrant.

In 1885, Joseph Chaumet (1852–1928) married Marie, the daughter of Prosper Morel, thus taking control of the House. The Renaissance style was still used, in particular for tiaras, very much in vogue at the time, which Chaumet would make one of its specialities; but Chaumet also drew inspiration from Japanese art, which was gaining popularity in jewellery design at the time, as well as the pointed arches of Islamic architecture.
Before fully embracing the Art Deco style, Chaumet was influenced by the Art Nouveau movement, creating jewelry with elaborate floral and nature-inspired motifs. Chaumet created a wide range of imaginative pieces, including decorative hair ornaments and accessories inspired by mythology, such as bat-shaped aigrettes and intricately carved combs. In 1907, the Maison moved to 12, Place Vendôme, turning the Hotel Baudard de Sainte-James into Chaumet’s iconic address.

Marcel Chaumet (1886–1964) succeeded his father Joseph in 1928, at the height of the Art Deco period. Jewellery was more geometric, following the 'boyish style' of the 1920s, becoming more feminine during the 1930s. Colours, materials and fine gems were imperative for jewellery. From the 1920s onwards, the renown of the jewellery house spread to the world of the arts and show business. In 1934, Maison Chaumet sponsored the establishment of the young jeweller Pierre Sterlé, who was already designing its jewellery. In the same year, the House closed, only to re-open at the end of the World War II.

In the wake of the post-war years, Chaumet stood out as a precursor, embodying the taste and creativity of the Parisian woman. Chaumet adapted the 'New Look' of the pioneers Christian Dior and Yves Saint Laurent, attracting the fashionable women of the time.

In 1958, the sons of Marcel Chaumet, Jacques and Pierre, were appointed executive directors of the House. They took over the Breguet brand in 1970. François Bodet, a Maison Chaumet executive, renewed the brand and positioned Breguet in the high-end watchmaking segment.

The 1970s were marked by originality and unconventional combinations, such as pairings of diamonds, coral and peridot mounted on yellow gold.

Eventually, the company went bankrupt for the reasons mentioned above in the Breguet (2/2) post. After belonging to the Investcorp investment group, the Maison was purchased by the LVMH Group in 1999.

Chaumet's watches are pieces of jewellery in the high luxury sector with prices starting at around 7000 € for the most basic quartz pieces to above 130k€ for iced-out pieces. The flying tourbillon watches probably touch the quarter of a million ceiling. Mechanically, they either use ETA movements or Hublot's CP12V-IX tourbillon caliber (Hublot is LVMH as well).

 

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Some notes on the oldest watch brands – Leroy or Le Roy 1785

If you google the name "Le Roy" or "Leroy" + watchmaker you will find an incredible amount of hits. That's because the name Le Roy was relatively common and because a lot of them endeavoured in watchmaking.
Today's L. Leroy goes back to the founder Basile-Charles Leroy (1765 - 1839). It's his father Basile (just Basile) who started the tradition in the family though, when he signed a watchmaking apprenticeship contract in 1747, contract which bore also the signature of his namesake Pierre Le Roy, who, together with his father Julien previously, had been watchmaker to the King.

But let's go back to Basile-Charles, the man behind today's company. He set up shop in Paris in 1785, marking the year of the brand's foundation. He was indeed a skilled watchmaker and was, as many others, favoured by the nobility. This meant that he had his fair share of problems during the French Revolution, when he had to lie low and wait for the storm to pass. He did so first by signing his work with the anagram "Elyor", and then even staging up the sale of the company to an employee. After the times had settled, he got it back.



The fame of the brand literally exploded in the 19th century. Leroy was famous for its chiming and tact watches. In 1828 Charles-Louis his son joined him in the company and fostered business further. In the following years, Leroy et fils was appointed Watchmaker to the King and the Duke d'Orleans, later in 1835 they were also contracted by the Naval Ministry because of their skills in marine chronometry.



In 1854 they expanded, opening the first boutique in London. In 1864 they were appointed Watchmakers to Queen Victoria, many other royal houses followed suit.

Notable is also Louis (born 1859) Leroy's activity. He was the one who expanded the company by promoting collaborations with Swiss watchmakers, Audemars and Piguet among others and developing with them some of the most complicated watches of the time. The most famous watch is the Leroy 01. This extraordinary timepiece commissioned by one Count Nostitz, winner of the Grand Prix Spécial du Jury at the Paris Universal Exhibition in 1900, remained the absolute standard-setter in terms of "ultra-complicated" watchmaking until 1989.

Its movement, comprising over 975 pieces on 4 mechanical levels, was developed and perfected with the expertise of the famous Swiss watchmaker Charles Piguet in Le Brassus who produced the movement blank or ébauche. The watch was then assembled, completed and encased in the Leroy Workshops in Besançon. From order to delivery, it took seven years of work to complete this masterpiece.



In 1896, on the death of its first owner, a famous Portuguese collector, Doctor Antonio Augusto de Carvalho Monteiro, acquired Count Nostitz' watch. A demanding customer, he thought it might be possible to include even more functions and made a request to this effect to Louis
Leroy. He laid out a veritable list of specifications which he summarised in these terms: produce a watch that will encompass all that contemporary science and technology can offer – in portable form. After over seven years of intense work, Louis Leroy handed this latest piece in person to the King of Portugal, a loyal client of the House, during the monarch’s visit to Paris.



Their clientele continued growing in thwe 20th century and today L. Leroy is a luxury brand owned by the Festina Group producing complicated watches, mostly chronometers at the >50k/100k price point.



 
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Some notes on the oldest watch brands – Girard Perregaux 1791

Here we go again. As many others, GP cheats a bit on its year of founding.

In 1791, watchmaker and goldsmith Jean-François Bautte (no Girard, no Perregaux, you see?) made his first watches. He was trained from the age of 12 as a watchmaker, guillocheur and goldsmith. He created a manufacturing company in Geneva, bundling for the first time ever all the watchmaking aspects of that time in one company. This included the engineering of the watch all the way to the final hand-assembly and hand-polishing of each piece. Together with his partner, Jean-Gabriel Moynier, they were one of the most famous watchmakers in Geneva. Their customers were aristocratic and royal houses from all over Europe. A number of writers including Dumas, Blazac and Ruskin wrote about the brilliant watchmaker, who was the inventor of the extra-flat watch.
In 1832, Jacques Bautte and Jean-Samuel Rossel succeeded Jean Bautte, becoming the head of the company. In 1880, the German war marine ordered around 2,000 wristwatches at Girard-Perregaux, which was a major order for those times when all watches were made by hand and were considered luxury goods. The cover watches were made of 14 karat gold and the glass of the watches was protected by a metal lattice.

In 1852, the watchmaker Constant Girard founded Girard & Cie in La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland. He then married Marie Perregaux in 1854, and the Girard-Perregaux Manufacture was founded in 1856. In 1906, Constant Girard-Gallet, who took over control of the Manufacture from his father, acquired the Bautte House and merged it with Girard-Perregaux & Cie. So you see, they bought the legacy of someone else and built upon it.

In 1928, the company had to file for bankruptcy and was bought up in 1929 by the German watchmaker Otto Graef (1862-1948), the owner of the Manufactory Internationale de Montres d'Or (MIMO). In 1930 for the first time more wristwatches than pocket watches are sold. About 1940 the brand Girard-Perregaux is very successful both in Europe and America, especially with the waterproof model Sea Hawk.
Together with his family, Otto Graef has managed to save the Girard-Perregaux brand from destruction and oblivion and has helped to gain a worldwide reputation. In the 1960s, the Girard-Perregaux was one of the few brands to have its own research and development department.

Paulette Graef was owner of Girard-Perregaux in the immediate post-war period, and she married Charles-Edouard Virchaux in 1951. Virchaux owned the brand Consul, which he brought under the banner of Girard-Perregaux Holding in 1969. The combined company sold watches under the Girard-Perregaux, Consul, and Landi brands through the 1970s, until it was purchased by Desco von Schulthess in 1979.

1957 the self-winding movement with Gyromatic is presented to the public. 1966 Girard-Perregaux introduces in the Gyromatic family the first high-frequency movement with 36,000 A/h.

Girard-Perregaux tracks the progressive development of the quartz watch technology very consistently and in 1970 can thus address the industrial production of quartz wristwatches as the first company in Switzerland. The frequency applied of Girard-Perregaux is 32,768 A/h, later this becomes the international standard for quartz watches.

However, the focus on quartz was not as succesful as GP would have liked. Under ownership of Asian distributor Desco von Schulthess in 1979, GP became a sister to Desco's in-house brand, Maurice Lacroix through the 1980s. A bold advertising campaign focused on high-end quartz in Japan followed, but this was not a success. Desco sold the majority stake to General Manager Francis Besson in 1989. Besson re-focused the company on mechanical watch movements, and his efforts were enough to stabilize the company. Since Girard-Perregaux still builds its own movements into the watches, the company can count with full rights to the handful of reputable manufactures that exist today.

1992 the Italian entrepreneur, architect and former racing driver Luigi Macaluso takes over the management of the company. As a watch importer who had already introduced GP in Italy a long time ago, he took the chance that came his way, and bought the company from Francis Besson, who had taken it over only a few years earlier from Desco of Schulthess. By agreement with Ferrari, a line of Girard-Perregaux Ferrari models was created, and between 1994 and 2004 also a collection of sports models and Grandes Complications.

Massimo Macaluso, son of the proprietor, is responsible for the subsidiary company Daniel JeanRichard.

Now we get into the intricacies of corporate M&As. Sowind was founded by Luigi Macaluso in 1988 in La Chaux-de-Fonds as a distribution company for Girard-Perregaux, Breitling and Hamilton on the Italian market. Soon after, the company acquired a minority stake in Girard-Perregaux and in 1992 became the majority shareholder of Lorane Holding SA, which owned 67% of the famous watch manufacturer.

In 2011 Sowind is acquired by the Kering Group (Gucci, Saint Laurent, Valentino...). In 2022 however, they sell their stakes back to Sowind group, which today is a parent company of Girard Perregaux and Ulysse Nardin.

From a design point of view you may say all starts in 1867, when GP presented a tourbillon (GP was fixated with tourbillons) watch with 3 arrow-shaped bridges, also known as "La Esmeralda". This piece transformed the architecture of the watch, turning a purely functional component (the bridge) into an aesthetic feature. The 3 bridges will become the signature feature of GP watches.

Other notable watches are the 1945 rectangular Art Déco model. In 1995 this model was reissued under the name Vintage 1945. Vintage 1945 is so successful internationally that of this model a Lady series and a column wheel chronograph with automatic winding is derived.

The 1993 started Richeville series includes models with elegant tonneau shape, in the variant as a mechanical chronograph with automatic winding or as self-winding watch with small seconds.

The Sea Hawk series goes back to the 1960s and 1970s. It gradually developed to a series of dive watches. After the 2nd World War the name “Sea Hawk” was taken for watches that have been used for active operations, particularly in products for the marine and shipping.

In 2003 Girard-Perregaux presents the third evolution of the 1975 created collection “Laureato” under the name Laureato EVO 3. The case design adapts the classic theme of the octagonal bezel, but in softer lines than before, which is also true for the integrated bracelet. The new version contains a mechanical chronograph movement with automatic winding and several complications including perpetual calendar.

And now pics.

The origins, a 1820 Bautte et Moynier Lepine pocket watch and a 1840 Bautte et Cie. pocket watch.


The Esmeralda and another "three bridges" pocket watch:


The Vintage 1945



Vintage diver and modern Seahawk



Quartz watches including a 1965 Laureato and a 1976 Casquette



1965 Gyromatic HF (like this a lot!)



1966 perpetual calendar



Random ones including the modern Laureato, imo the flagship model (I'll post the version I like, this model is literally "raped" in several versions, skeleton, chrono, tourbillon....):

 
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Some notes on the oldest watch brands – Earnshaw 1805

Thomas Earnshaw is probably turning in his grave looking at what is being done under his name today. Unfortunately, this kind of things happens when you live in the same age as more illustrious colleagues as Harrison and Arnold. Let's start with Earnshaw the horologist.

Thomas Earnshaw (1749 - 1829) was a british watchmaker who specialized in marine chronometers, as the aforementioned Harrison and Arnold. We already met him in this thread because of a quarrel he had with Arnold concerning plagiarism on the invention of the compensation balance and detente escapement. Historically, Earnshaw has been recognized primacy on those and on other technical improvements which were also aimed at simplifying the process of making marine chronometers. Thomas’ bimetallic compensatory balance and spring detent escapement has been employed almost routinely in marine chronometers since then, and as a result he is widely considered as one of the pioneers of chronometer development.
Earnshaw is more known for his work on marine chronometers and their simplification to reduce costs and make them accessible to a wider public. However, he also built building clocks, as a matter of fact he was commissioned by Nevil Maskelyne, Astronomer Royal, the clock for the Armagh Observatory, which some believed it to be the world's most accurate clock.

But marine chronometers were his main thing and many of those accompanied Her/His Royal Majesty's Ships in the exploration of the seas during the 19th century. More than Earnshaw's name, you will probably be more familiar with some of those expeditions or the people who took part to them. Earnshaw's chronometers were used by one Captain William Bligh on a more succesful expedition than his previous one with the Bounty...
Other exemplars were used in the expedition to circumnavigate and map Australia's coastline. On his trip to Siberia, Alexander von Humboldt carried along a Breguet'S pocket chronometer one by Earnshaw. The most notable however must be the chronometer N. 509 which was fitted on the Beagle from 1831 to 1836 accompanying Charles Darwin on his travels.

Conflicting records say Earnshaw "retired" either in 1815 or 1822. In any case, he passed the business along to his son Thomas Jr., who probably wasn't very interested in chronometers and focussed on making simple pocket watches. The family history continues for 5 generations of "Thomas" (apparently) with the success slowly dwindling to nothing. Records show that a Thomas Earnshaw was still active in 1911 in Coventry, were the family had relocated in the last decade of 1800, forced by receding sales under the pressure of Swiss wathces.




Now to the puke part. I apologize beforehand for this.
This is what the Earnshaw website boasts:
"Our vision is simple: to make great watches at exceptionally fair prices. Inspired by the 'Father of the Modern Chronometer' and a love for vintage watchmaking techniques, in 2012 Thomas Earnshaw set out to fill a unique gap in the market. With a nostalgia for the golden age of elegance and watchmaking, we aimed to go beyond the expected and redefine the new classic - and our watches have done just this."

Interestingly, Thomas Earnshaw belongs to Dartmouth Brands Ltd. a company which was incorporated only in 2013 by a chap (possibly a Pakistani national) residing in, guess where.... Honk Kong. Also belonging to Dartmouth Brands are, among others, brands like AVI-8 and Spinnaker... buyers beware... Dropshipping at its finest.

Furthermore:
"Dartmouth Brands Ltd is a major supplier of own brand labels which boasts an enviable portfolio of watch brands catering for all ages and tastes. We work closely with our customers to achieve the quality standards and styles that best fit your needs. We design and manufacture the watches and meet all UK and EU legislation.

Thomas Earnshaw timepieces made by us for you as watch connoisseurs


Our mission is the same now as when Thomas Earnshaw first started making watches in the 1700’s:

'To make beautiful watches beautifully simple to buy'

Best Quality - The workmanship that goes into creating your Thomas Earnshaw watch is exceptional. We use the finest materials that are sourced from ethically and environmentally responsible suppliers. All our watches contain the highest quality movements and are backed by our 2 Year Warranty. Crafted by hand using hundreds of tiny parts, these timepieces offers a handsome watch which honours the values of precision, all our watches are hand polished and finished. Click here to see our transparent returns policy which we hope will give you Total Peace of Mind when shopping with us.

Best Prices - By manufacturing our own products and selling directly to you, Thomas Earnshaw can pass on all our cost savings to our customers. Throughout our website you will see significant savings, special offers and discounts on our products. Our watches are continually being compared to other brands of watches costing many hundreds of pounds more
."

Now if this isn't enough to smell the BS, you need to just look at their offerings and it will be clear what kind of crap they sell (on amazon, too, btw.). I'm not going to post any pics of that crap, but think about this, would you buy a watch with the movement specification: "Mechanical Automatic 3 Hands with Date"? Here's a link to their "Bestsellers": https://thomas-earnshaw.eu/collections/best-sellers

They have a Trustpilot rating of 1,7, more than 70% of reviews are 1-star.

On behalf of good taste, I apologize to the memory of Thomas Earnshaw.
 
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Some notes on the oldest watch brands – Louis Moinet 1806

I had already stumbled upon Louis Moinet's name and wrote about it here: https://forum.replica-watch.info/th...-what-a-chronograph-is.10989766/post-11895429

Surprisingly, this rather obscure name is the inventor of the first chronograph. And what a chronograph! This is probably due to the fact that it was only discovered in 2012 when the piece was sold at auction. But let's go in order.

As with the example before, today's brand has very little to do with its namesake, except in this case it takes a more genuine inspiration from Louis Moinet and isn't a dropshipping hoax. On the contrary, the Louis Moinet brand produces high horology pieces with complications and the utilization of rare stones and gems that range from 5k to 500k. The workshop has an output of around 1000 pieces per year. More of the modern brand later.

Louis Moinet (1768 - 1853) was kind of a Leonardo da Vinci of horology. Born into a prosperous family of farmers in Bourges, at the age of 20, he left France and went to Rome, where he studied architecture, sculpture and painting for five years. Here he met the members of the Académie de France, the greatest artists of their time. From Rome he went on to Florence. There, in a workshop provided by Count Manfredini, Minister to the Grand Duke of Tuscany, he familiarized himself with artistic engraving on semi-precious stones. He also created several paintings.

When he returned to Paris after his studies, he became a Professor at the Academy of Arts in the Louvre but, looking back to his childhood, there was an avenue that he had not yet explored. Having spent lots of his spare time as a child with a watchmaker, Louis Moinet resumed his studies once more to explore this deep seated passion. Ten years of training with his master and Moinet became president of the Chronometry Society of Paris and became friends with Breguet in 1811.
When Moinet met Abraham-Louis Breguet, the latter was already quite famous. Breguet recognised Moinet's worth at once, and the two men worked closely together. From 1811 on, Moinet became Breguet's personal adviser. Abraham-Louis Breguet's son, Antoine-Louis, found it difficult to tolerate the presence of a man who spent far more time with his father than he himself could. When Breguet died in 1823, Moinet left the house on the Quai de l'Horloge to live elsewhere.

Together the pair worked on watchmaking concepts, sharing their expertise and innate passion for timepieces, which subsequently devoured hours and hours of their time until in 1816 Louis Moinet’s first "compteur de tierces" was created. The world’s first chronograph.

The next two decades after this chronograph innovation were dedicated towards refining and perfecting the art of watchmaking. Louis Moinet published his first magnum opus, ‘Le Traité d'Horlogerie' in 1948 which took a total of 20 years to write and also invented an astronomical watch. Louis Moinet watches were loved and collected by Royalty and members of high society, Tsar of Russia, Napoleon, Thomas Jefferson and King George IV of England to name just a few who admired his work.



The "Compteur de Tierces"
This remarkable instrument of an entirely original design measures events to the sixtieth of a second (known in those days as a “third” or tierce in French), indicated by a central hand. The elapsed seconds and minutes are recorded on separate subdials, and the hours on a 24-hour dial. The stop, start and reset functions for the central hand are controlled by two buttons which qualifies it as a chronograph in the modern sense, although the term was coined much later. The return-to-zero function was revolutionary for the time. Until today, this invention had been thought to date from Adolphe Nicole’s patent of 1862.

In the 19th century, watchmakers sought to increase the precision with which they could measure time by increasing the frequency of their watches. By 1820 the generally accepted limit was time measurement to the tenth of a second.
Moinet’s compteur de tierces (“thirds timer”) was thus by far the most precise instrument of its period, measuring time six times more closely than the norm. Moinet’s division of time into sixtieths of a second is another historical achievement that places him among the great contributors to modern watchmaking. The chronograph’s balance beats at 216,000 vibrations an hour or at the then unimaginable frequency of 30Hz. To put that into perspective, the usual balance frequency in a modern wristwatch is 28,800 v/h or 4Hz. Louis Moinet is thus the father of high-frequency time measurement, although it was not until exactly a century later that a watch was made to beat his record.

Why did Moinet need such high frequency? He was timing the passage of stars, planets and even planetary moons. A frequency of 216,000 v/h imparted 60 vibrations a second, thus dividing the second into sixtieths. He made the compteur initially to set the precise distance between the crosshairs in his telescope, as he describes in his 1848 Traité d’Horlogerie:
“This invention came to me during my observations in the following circumstances. I had acquired a small mobile quadrant by the famous Borda (maker of the entire circle). This instrument, of excellent English manufacture, was balanced on rubies, and by an ingenious system of counterweights was supposed by its maker to be preserved by its own inertia from the motion of the ship, and to provide at sea observations almost as exact as those obtained on land. But the project was not successful. Having acquired the instrument for another purpose, I added, for terrestrial observations, an azimuth circle graduated in minutes with a vernier by the late Fortin, two intersecting levels, a polished mobile axis and a three-footed stand with levelling screws and a scale etc. However the scope’s narrow field of vision put the reticule lines very close together, and it was to remedy this inconvenience of failing to see a line, that I thought up the compteur de tierces, which worked very well by giving me a precise distance between the reticule lines.”



The greatest men are often the most modest and such was Louis Moinet, an academic, who shared his research with fellow horologists, rather than a businessman in pursuit of profit. His peers regarded him as one of the greatest horologists of all time. Monsieur Delmas, vice president of the Paris chronometry society had this to say about him: “He was everywhere, at all the discussions just as when he was president of the chronometry society: precise, clear, indulgent, enlightening and encouraging the weak, giving advice to all without self regard, spreading light without ulterior motive…” (From the Panthéon Biographique Universel, 1853).

Worth noting, although Moinet signed clocks and pocket watches, he can't be considered as having a real manufacture, there was never a "Moinet" brand sold in jewelleries or other retailers, rather he worked for the sake of research and on commission.

In 2004 Jean-Marie Schaller, a former creative director at Perrelet's and Lacoste's watch divisions decided to create a brand and revived the name Moinet. The modern brand's business model is creating limited-edition mechanical watches with a high artistic component. Patented mechanisms for every Louis Moinet watch are unique and authentic. The special edition timepieces from the Louis Moinet catalogue tend to be limited to 12 or 60 timepieces.

Schaller's motivations to create the brand are pictured as follows:
Louis Moinet’s name kept popping up in random conversations until a friend offered him the chance to buy the name for 8,000 Swiss francs (S$11,200). At first, he was hesitant, but when he found out that someone else was willing to pay 15,000 Swiss francs for it, he jumped at the chance, and launched the brand in 2004.

Then Schaller discovered that Moinet’s Compteur de Tierces — the world’s first high-frequency stopwatch that beats at 30Hz — was being auctioned by Christie’s in 2012. The maximum he was willing to bid was 30,000 Swiss francs. However, when he woke up on the morning of the auction, he heard a voice whisper: “50,000”. It turned out to be exactly the amount needed to outbid “an esteemed watch company from Geneva” that wanted it for its museum.


Fun fact: Les Ateliers Louis Moinet hold 3 Guinnes records: the World's First Chronograph, the World's First High Frequency Stopwatch and the Most Meteorite Inserts in a Watch.

Aesthetically, not for me. Too much bling, too busy, too colourful, too expensive. A whim for the super-rich of this world. Although it's nice to see for once that the name of a famous horologist isn't raped for the sake of cheap dropshipping scams and the ingenuity behind the watches is genuine, it's too auto-referential, that's not progress in my eyes.

 
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Some notes on the oldest watch brands – Bovet (Fleurier) 1822

An interesting brand, Bovet is, not very widely known today, probably because it caters to the super-duper rich. Its watches range from 18k$ for the beggar versions to 2.5M$ for the top of the line. Characteristic of these watches are the minutely handcrafted details and enamel parts, and of course the complications. Maybe Jaquet Droz is comparable as to the market niche they occupy.

Interesting brand, interesting founder. Édouard Bovet (1797–1849) was the son of Jean-Frédéric Bovet, a master watchmaker in Fleurier. Fleurier is a watchmaking town in the Val-de-Travers district of the canton of Neuchâtel in western Switzerland. Well-known watch companies such as Parmigiani and Chopard have their headquarters here. Watchmaking in this town dates back to 1730, when David-Jean-Jacques-Henri Vaucher (an apprentice of Daniel Jeanrichard) began making watches here. By 1750, there were already 15 watchmakers working in the town. The number rose to 106 in 1794, making up 13% of the population.

Édouard started studying at his father's workshop, however he moved to London in 1814 (some sources mention 1812, some sources mention "political reasons", but I couldn't find anything specific) together with 2 of his brothers and studied with Ilbury and Magniac. Ilbury and Magniac came both from clockmaker families in London. Together with James Cox (another London clockmaker), Ilbury and Magniac were specialized in the Chinese market.

It seems like Édouard's strength was more in the business part than the horological part, so 1818 he was sent to China to take care of the trading business for Magniac. Almost as soon as he arrived he was able to sell four of his watches for the equivalent of US$1 million in 2008 currency.

Smart as he was, Édouard saw the potential of the chinese market and took the opportunity to become independent, drawing on the advantage of having 2 brothers sitting in London and a fourth still in Switzerland. The original Bovet company was registered in London in 1822 by Edouard Bovet to produce watches exclusively for the Chinese market. Some watch historians believe that the company was founded in London to ship watches to China on the East India Company's frequent ships. Edouard's brothers Alphonse and Frederic remained in London to manage the shipping; another brother, Charles-Henri (some mention a "Gustave"...), managed production in Fleurier, while Edouard developed the market in Canton.

Bovet was neither the first nor the last company to set its sights on the Chinese watch market. They shared it with Ilbury, Jaques Ullmann and Vacheron Constantin, among others. While Vacheron Constantin dominated the market in imperial North China from 1820, Bovet remained the market leader in the more populous south of the country. Although the Chinese watch market of the 19th century had already been dominated by a few Jesuit watchmakers in the 15th century, Bovet was still the market leader.



Bovet produced ordinary watches with luxurious finishes, including pearl and enamel artwork, display case backs, and jewels. These became famous in China, taking the name of the company to describe the “Bovets”. It was a custom in China to give valuable gifts in pairs, so two identical watches were often produced and sold as a set.



Notwithstanding their high price, the popularity of Bovet watches in China meant that the company had to contract with other Swiss manufacturers such as Guinand to help them meet demand. Even though Juvet Fleurier also sold pieces in China, it was not uncommon to see Bovet pieces with a Juvet movement. In the 1830s Bovet established a manufacturing facility in Canton, but because of restrictions resulting from the Opium Wars, they had to close that facility and open a smaller one in Macau. It was about this time that the company created a Chinese name to more effectively market to the middle class. The Chinese name for Bovet, "Bo Wei", became a common noun for watches in China for many years. A Bovet watch was considered an asset in China and was accepted in payment everywhere.


The chinese brand of Bovet, pronounced "bo-wei"

The thriving trade established Bovet and Fleurier as a dominant manufacture, but when he returned to Fleurier in 1830, he became part of a separatist movement against the Prussian rulers of the area and fled to Besançon the next year, where he continued watchmaking with the help of other exiled watchmakers. Once the political situation was back to normal, in 1840, the firm was reregistered as Bovet Frères et Cie.; the share capital amounted to one million francs. Edouard Bovet died in 1849.

The Chinese watch market collapsed around 1855 due to competition from France and the United States along with the tremendous number of Chinese-made counterfeits. By 1864 problems caused by the Opium War caused the Bovet family to sell their interest in the company. They sold the company to their manufacturing inspectors in Fleurier, Jules Jequier and Ernest Bobillier, who were soon joined by Ami Leuba.

Bovet continued to manufacture pocket watches, though at a much reduced rate, and would frequently offer its manufacturing services on a contract basis to other watch companies. The Landry Frères purchased Bovet in 1888 but did not invest in it. In 1901, the Bovet trademark was sold at auction in Paris to Cesar and Charles Leuba, sons of Ami Leuba. Jacques Ullmann and Co., another successful producer of watches for the Chinese market, purchased the Bovet brand in 1918. After Jacques Ullmann went out of business in 1932, the Bovet name was acquired by Albert and Jean Bovet, who were successful watch makers and registered several patents for chronographs, such as the mono rattrapante: a device that would pause the second hand for a reading while the mechanism continued to run. The company Favre-Leuba purchased the name and manufacturing facilities from the Bovet brothers in 1948. Favre-Leuba stopped producing Bovet branded watches in 1950, and then only manufactured its own branded watches from the facilities it acquired from the Bovet brothers. Favre-Leuba sold the Bovet brand and facilities in 1966 to a cooperative of individual watch makers.

The Bovet branded watches sold by Bovet Frères in the early 1940s (and possibly as early as the 1930s) and by Favre-Leuba from 1948 to 1950 contained a number of ebauches, or blank movements manufactured by other companies. Initially the signature, or logo, on the dial of the Bovet Frères watches simply had the name of the company in a typical typeface, but in the early 1940s their watches had their stylized logo without the "Frères". When Favre-Leuba purchased the company, the stylized logo was replaced with simply "Bovet" in normal type, then with a stylized "Bovet". In the transition just before the Favre-Leuba watches no longer used the Bovet brand, watches assembled at the Bovet facility bore the name of both Favre-Leuba and Bovet.



In 1989, Parmigiani Fleurier purchased Bovet and registered the trademark for "all watchmaking products, mechanical watches and clocks and naval instruments, of Swiss origin", but no Bovet branded timepieces were produced. Parmigiani sold Bovet in 1990 to investors, and Bovet Fleurier SA was established. However, no watches were actually manufactured by the company until after it was acquired by Roger Guye and Thierry Oulevay in 1994, who opened a branch office in Geneva.

The company was acquired by Pascal Raffy, its current president, on 6 February 2001. In June 2006, Raffy purchased several manufacturing structures, such as the STT group, which produced complicated watch movements, in order to obtain complete control over the quality of all phases of the watch crafting process. STT was renamed Dimier 1738 Manufacture de Haute Horlogerie Artisanale and went into a full restructuring over the next two years in order to bring the standards up to those of Bovet. The second purchase was a dial and precious gem setting manufacture located in Plan-les-Ouates in Geneva. The name was changed also from Valor, Lopez et Villa to Dimier 1738 Manufacture Artisanale de Cadrans et de Sertissages. With the same philosophy as the movement factory, Raffy turned this factory into an artisan center providing dials for Bovet, Dimier's watch brand, and a select group of clients in luxury watchmaking. There are currently about 150 employees of Bovet Fleurier SA and the Dimier manufactures, and the company only produces 800 watches a year.[14] Some modern Bovet watches are fitted with mechanisms manufactured by Vaucher Manufacture, a company that also supplied watches to the Chinese market in the 19th century. Bovet spends very little to advertise and prefers to have private salons for clients instead of attending public fairs. About a third of the watches it manufactures are one-of-a-kind pieces that are made on order.

Bovet watches include a lot of artistic detail, allegedly the company gives the artisans a great deal of independence in creating the elements of the watches. The Chinese watches were originally sold in pairs in a mahogany box, both for good luck and so that the user would have a back-up watch if one needed repair, as repairs would sometimes take more than six months to complete. The design characteristics of the watch emphasized the elements which appealed to Chinese consumers.

One of these appealing characteristics was the mechanics of clocks and watches, and so Bovet emphasized the beauty of the movements with its skeletonized views and highly decorative movements, the first watches to emphasize these characteristics in this way. For the same reason the watches were also among the first to include a second-hand. The enamel decorations were usually of European scenes or plant life, which made the watches more appealing to the Chinese consumers, since such images were as exotic to them as the European-made watches themselves.

The original Chinese Bovet watches often fetch more than US$300,000 for the most decorative models, and more than $50,000 for the simpler ones. The simplest metal Chinese watches in moderate condition are usually sold for at least $500. Replicas have become increasingly common on the Internet, and while some are the counterfeits produced in China in the 19th century, some more modern counterfeits have also been seen, particularly in markets in Europe and on the Bay.

 
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