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Its a gen F or G series and it looks to be in good condition. Congrats if you’re picking it up.
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How can you tell this is not a franken without a movment pic? Or even a side pic to see the thickness?Its a gen F or G series and it looks to be in good condition. Congrats if you’re picking it up.
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How can you tell this is not a franken without a movment pic? Or even a side pic to see the thickness?
It could be a gen dial, hands, bazel and strap on a rep case and movment?
How can you tell this is not a franken without a movment pic? Or even a side pic to see the thickness?
It could be a gen dial, hands, bazel and strap on a rep case and movment?
From these photos I would say that the only 100% gen parts are the dial and the hands.
If you provided photos of the caseback with the little doggie and the clasp with the golden standard stamp it will be a bit easier to judge.
Ideally put this on a scale and see what the weight is.
And then again, best thing is to have it inspected by AP.
edit: gold’s weigh is approx. 2.5 times that of steel. So if a steel watch weighs 180gr, the golden one should be closer to 300gr - given that they both use same mechanics. But maybe legend could chime in
My franken RGRC has the correct series and 18k doggie stamps per recent JF production.
Need to check series, see the movement and weigh and then you are done... at that point the only bad news from AP would be that it is stolen.
From these photos I would say that the only 100% gen parts are the dial and the hands.
If you provided photos of the caseback with the little doggie and the clasp with the golden standard stamp it will be a bit easier to judge.
Ideally put this on a scale and see what the weight is.
And then again, best thing is to have it inspected by AP.
edit: gold’s weigh is approx. 2.5 times that of steel. So if a steel watch weighs 180gr, the golden one should be closer to 300gr - given that they both use same mechanics. But maybe legend could chime in
Dial, tachy, hands, crystal and movement are 100000% genuine. Case looks very genuine as well judging by geometry and overall features that 99% of all frankens lack. Bezel appears to be service ceramic / cermet bezel doesn’t happen rarely. I’ve seen many now converted ceramiclads.
How can you tell this is not a franken without a movment pic? Or even a side pic to see the thickness?
It could be a gen dial, hands, bazel and strap on a rep case and movment?
I agree with the general assumptions.For pics on “gen or rep”, there needs to be a line drawn to base the assumption on since we are unable to assess the watch physically in hand. In this case I’ve seen enough to fairly draw the conclusion that this watch is gen. If the question is being asked on a forum with pics and not actual watch provided, then any answer given must be in respect of solely observing the pictures.
It is not realistic to expect a tear down of the part into parts and then scrutinizing each part to ascertain its authenticity.
It is the OP’s responsibility to make his own discernment based on our replies and to understand the limitations of said replies.
I stand by my reply that this watch is genuine. It’s a combination of observation, probability and instinct.
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I agree with the general assumptions.
However I'm asking here 2 questions: how common is to see a franken that good? And why not ask for side and back photos?
That, plus the gen dw which fits only in the gen movement