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Going gen Panerai, is it worth it?
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I seem to be one of the few with this opinion but it's almost always worth to go gen - if you can afford the change! Big fan of chunky watches here, love the 372/422. I once had a rep SF 422 with the "superclone" movement. Sold it because it looked a little too chunky on my wrist and because I prefer automatic movements.
However, I'd suggest to buy the rep first, wear it for some time just to be sure and then go for the gen once you've made your mind up. The 422 SF is a pretty decent rep and you can choose between a plexi or crystal. I went for the latter. Fake power reserve though and the engraved numbers between the lugs look a little "blurred".
However, I'd suggest to buy the rep first, wear it for some time just to be sure and then go for the gen once you've made your mind up. The 422 SF is a pretty decent rep and you can choose between a plexi or crystal. I went for the latter. Fake power reserve though and the engraved numbers between the lugs look a little "blurred".
If you're all-in for the 422, I'd go for the 423. It has a power reserve indicator which is a nice complication and has yet to be well-replicated. 372 is tough for me to stomach on the gen side based on the simplicity and movement. If I were to buy a gen Panerai today, I'd go after one of the new 1940's Radiomir models with the microrotor or a Luminor Due. But I'm also a firm believe that you should spend your money how you deem appropriate -- we're all just clowns on keyboards when it comes to writing checks out of YOUR bank account haha.
I might also recommend buying used -- let the first schmuck absorb the depreciation ...
I might also recommend buying used -- let the first schmuck absorb the depreciation ...
Lexx22
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I have 2 PAM reps and I could never imagine buying a gen. Don't get me wrong I love them both and think PAM's are great watches but for some reason I just can't justify the cost for these. And as said above search and buy used, can't go wrong.
AznPhelo
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I had my heart set on a gen 111 for quite a while, but the v4 is such a good rep that it makes it hard to justify the real deal. Do you regret buying the gen now that you had the rep side by side?
I asked this question before....
Since then I've bought a 372 and a 55c.
Very happy with both.
They key is to buy pre owned. If you get a good deal you are just parking the money.
I don't think I would ever sell these though.
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Since then I've bought a 372 and a 55c.
Very happy with both.
They key is to buy pre owned. If you get a good deal you are just parking the money.
I don't think I would ever sell these though.
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hmmm ill disagree with not worth buying a gen.. the gen of most models look and feel much better than the reps. a Gen p3000 movement looks miles ahead of the rep, the fit finish and feel of a Gen 372 is miles ahead of the rep. I have a bunch of Gens and a bunch of Reps and meet with some Paneristis in my area and held some elusive models eyeing them closely then comparing to reps when I was home and to be honest they are close in many cases but the real deal will always be better. The only reps I have that are really not worth buying the gen version of has been my frankens or high dollar builds.
I had a 422 Gen in my hands last week and it was truly beautiful ! Id buy the Rep of it but I could never say the rep is as good as the gen or even close. that's just my 2 cents from buying and selling tens of thousands in gens and owning probably just as much in reps of Panerais. but to each their own
I had a 422 Gen in my hands last week and it was truly beautiful ! Id buy the Rep of it but I could never say the rep is as good as the gen or even close. that's just my 2 cents from buying and selling tens of thousands in gens and owning probably just as much in reps of Panerais. but to each their own
Hi mate,
as an owner of several gen and some reps i woud say it depends.
Tbh, most guys here stating they would never go gen because reps are so good nowadays, there arguments have some heavy shortcomings. And most of them never handled a gen or owned it and compared them real life with the exact rep of it. Mostly the placing of reps we do is done by comparing pics (cosmetically).
If you just go the cosmetical way, and even then, most reps fail and suck up big time compared to the gen counterpart in reality. If you want your watch to be reliable as good as it gets, functionally, cosmetically and give you all the benefits it could, go the gen way.
For example, i use my 510 every day as my daily beater, for business, diving, sports, everywhere i go, my 510 is my companion. I did this in the past with all of my reps and most of them failed in time.
So my two cents are:
If you only decide cosmetically, then stay with the best reps out there, which mostly are only the Base or Marina PAMS (Noob 111, H 380, etc.)...
The more complications or moving caseparts the gen features, the more drownings reps take. Many little differences will sum up big time in reps. Bezel (Layout, engravings and mechanism), Crystal clarity, distortion, dial structure, printings, Movement layout and reliability, water tightness, Cannon Pinion, Crownguard (Pin and lever) and many more. And modding or frankening will not make it a better or gen watch. No paperworks, no GEN.
If you can afford a gen, go for it, go grey market, it cant be wrong...
And the feeling you get, wearing the gen and knowing it is gen is by far more satisfying than knowing you are wearing a chinese cracker wich implicates you spent quite a few bucks on a luxury watch but you havent. Wearing reps is nothing economically clever, it remains a fake item. Period.
Best, PAMaholic
as an owner of several gen and some reps i woud say it depends.
Tbh, most guys here stating they would never go gen because reps are so good nowadays, there arguments have some heavy shortcomings. And most of them never handled a gen or owned it and compared them real life with the exact rep of it. Mostly the placing of reps we do is done by comparing pics (cosmetically).
If you just go the cosmetical way, and even then, most reps fail and suck up big time compared to the gen counterpart in reality. If you want your watch to be reliable as good as it gets, functionally, cosmetically and give you all the benefits it could, go the gen way.
For example, i use my 510 every day as my daily beater, for business, diving, sports, everywhere i go, my 510 is my companion. I did this in the past with all of my reps and most of them failed in time.
So my two cents are:
If you only decide cosmetically, then stay with the best reps out there, which mostly are only the Base or Marina PAMS (Noob 111, H 380, etc.)...
The more complications or moving caseparts the gen features, the more drownings reps take. Many little differences will sum up big time in reps. Bezel (Layout, engravings and mechanism), Crystal clarity, distortion, dial structure, printings, Movement layout and reliability, water tightness, Cannon Pinion, Crownguard (Pin and lever) and many more. And modding or frankening will not make it a better or gen watch. No paperworks, no GEN.
If you can afford a gen, go for it, go grey market, it cant be wrong...
And the feeling you get, wearing the gen and knowing it is gen is by far more satisfying than knowing you are wearing a chinese cracker wich implicates you spent quite a few bucks on a luxury watch but you havent. Wearing reps is nothing economically clever, it remains a fake item. Period.
Best, PAMaholic
IMO the only gen pams worth getting are the vintage ones.
If you must, get a basic model with good resale value. I personally would never bother anything over 7k from panerai because at that level you just have too many better and smarter options (e.g a second hand 18k PP calatrava)
If you must, get a basic model with good resale value. I personally would never bother anything over 7k from panerai because at that level you just have too many better and smarter options (e.g a second hand 18k PP calatrava)