GMT II - DD3285 & SH3285

[guru]

FYI…….ARF wil release the SH3285 with 72h power reserve in June, stay tuned

 

[duderino]

Unfortunately, Clean does not make a green arrow with the DD3285

Am I missing something, or is this what you're looking for?

 

[duderino]

So you can verify yours is a 3186 if the hands rotate clockwise when you move the crown forward in time setting mode.

I found the QC video! Whe he moves the crown away from him, the hands move clockwise. Are DD3285 different?

 

[duderino]

So you can verify yours is a 3186 if the hands rotate clockwise when you move the crown forward in time setting mode.

Uhg, can't edit my initial reply, sorry!
So basically the Clean movement, which should be a true clone, does not set time like a genuine watch? In every genuine watch video I find, the hands move clockwise when you move the crown upwards, like the my batgirl. With clean, the hands move clockwise when you move downwards, as you can see in this QC video.

Wouldn't this make the SH3285 or more correctly, the VR3186 a better clone? This can get so confusing haha.

 

[KJ2020]

Uhg, can't edit my initial reply, sorry!
So basically the Clean movement, which should be a true clone, does not set time like a genuine watch? In every genuine watch video I find, the hands move clockwise when you move the crown upwards, like the my batgirl. With clean, the hands move clockwise when you move downwards, as you can see in this QC video.

Wouldn't this make the SH3285 or more correctly, the VR3186 a better clone? This can get so confusing haha.

Bro your VSF does not have an SH3285 or any 3285. It's simply (falsely) engraved 3285. You have a VR3186.

Gen 3185, 3186 and Rep VR3185 VR3186 SH3186
Fwd crown = fwd hands
Backward crown = backward hands

Gen 3285 and Rep DD3285 SH3285
Fwd crown = backward hands
Backward crown = fwd hands *

* This is what the video shows

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Uhg, can't edit my initial reply, sorry!
So basically the Clean movement, which should be a true clone, does not set time like a genuine watch? In every genuine watch video I find, the hands move clockwise when you move the crown upwards, like the my batgirl. With clean, the hands move clockwise when you move downwards, as you can see in this QC video.

Wouldn't this make the SH3285 or more correctly, the VR3186 a better clone? This can get so confusing haha.

Your watch mate, please read the MOVEMENT DESCRIPTION. And believe me and believe @KJ2020 . Please.

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Unfortunately, Clean does not make a green arrow with the DD3285

Sure they do.

GMT-Master II 126710 GRNR Black/Grey Ceramic 904L Steel Clean Factory Best Edition on Jubilee Bracelet DD3285 - CTime

PRODUCTS INTRODUCTION Case Diameter 40 MM Thickness 12 MM Bezel Black/Grey Ceramic Bezel with Platinum coated numerals Case Material Solid

ctime.io

 

[SubStalker]

This was a super informative thread, thanks to all for sharing your knowledge and expertise.

 

[duderino]

Bro your VSF does not have an SH3285 or any 3285. It's simply (falsely) engraved 3285. You have a VR3186.

Gen 3185, 3186 and Rep VR3185 VR3186 SH3186
Fwd crown = fwd hands
Backward crown = backward hands

Gen 3285 and Rep DD3285 SH3285
Fwd crown = backward hands
Backward crown = fwd hands *

* This is what the video shows

Oh, I wasn't referring to my watch. I know it has a good movement based on what you told me. I'm still waiting for the caseback opener so I can take a look inside. I also found a Daytona from 20 years ago that should be interesting to examine.

I was just browsing various movements on websites. I looked at a genuine Batgirl and compared it with a clean Batgirl. The hands moved clockwise when adjusting the crown up on the genuine, but the opposite way on the replica. However, I understand now there are both 3186 and 3285 movements in genuine Batgirls. I always thought the Batgirl was exclusively equipped with the 3285.

 

[KJ2020]

I was just browsing various movements on websites. I looked at a genuine Batgirl and compared it with a clean Batgirl. The hands moved clockwise when adjusting the crown up on the genuine, but the opposite way on the replica. However, I understand now there are both 3186 and 3285 movements in genuine Batgirls. I always thought the Batgirl was exclusively equipped with the 3285.

116710 BLNR - Oyster only, 3186 only

126710 BLNR - Initially Jubilee only now both, 3285 only

The 116710 BLNR is not natively compatible with a Jubilee bracelet though some examples of a forced fit can be found.

 

[duderino]

116710 BLNR - Oyster only, 3186 only

126710 BLNR - Initially Jubilee only now both, 3285 only

The 116710 BLNR is not natively compatible with a Jubilee bracelet though some examples of a forced fit can be found.

Thanks! That clears it up.
I read this article essentially explaining the differences between the two calibers. Essentially, the gen 3285 has a larger power reserve, a bal-beared rotor and a paraflex shock absorber.

 

[George474]

Wow, just a big wow.

What a fantastic thread in the greatest forum I ever was.!

Such an expertise. This is not only but also intellectual really outstanding and pleasing.


Thank you to all who are sharing their knowledge and expertise here.

Very appreciated.

 

[duderino]

Post a pic here if you want confirmation.

Okay, so I finally received the caseback opener! Here the inside of my VSF GMT-II:




And as a bonus I opened up a shitter that I found in a box in our basement. It's about 15 years old and was about 30 euro. Still works too! hehe

 

[KJ2020]

Okay, so I finally received the caseback opener! Here the inside of my VSF GMT-II:

No question about it - it's a VR3186 but the even better news is it's a V1, what we called the VR3185.

 

[duderino]

No question about it - it's a VR3186 but the even better news is it's a V1, what we called the VR3185.

Yea, you can see that the adjustor and regulator are facing outward, right? I was also scrutinizing the comprehensive guide

The guide also refers to this having a brass cup, but I don't know what that means, exactly.

 

[Rockfly]

No question about it - it's a VR3186 but the even better news is it's a V1, what we called the VR3185.

KJ. Just got QC for a clean GMT. I just want to verify this is a VR3186? Looks like a V1, correct? Also, shows a plus 6 seconds per day on the test meter. My other two reps are a little better than this. Any issues with that level of accuracy, or is that pretty standard?

 

[duderino]

KJ. Just got QC for a clean GMT. I just want to verify this is a VR3186? Looks like a V1, correct? Also, shows a plus 6 seconds per day on the test meter. My other two reps are a little better than this. Any issues with that level of accuracy, or is that pretty standard?

Look exactly like mine, so I'm guessing it's a 3186 v1 (no inversion on beat adjustor etc.)