Gen 5711 case , bracelet and movement

[Cheesegrater]

All this will cost you much more than 20-25k, wich was the retail

More like 40 at least

Parts are following the price of the watch,and especially at restricted parts from Patek where the supply and demand is chaotic and at a watch like that wich is the king of hype...

I see. I didn’t know.

I’m gonna think about my plans.

Is there such thing as a watchmaker that can make a 1:1 case and bracelet? Or is that also gonna cost more than a gen?

 

[Feefo]

I see. I didn’t know.

I’m gonna think about my plans.

Is there such thing as a watchmaker that can make a 1:1 case and bracelet? Or is that also gonna cost more than a gen?

At that point you'll be better off buying a rep and have the case reworked to original specs

 

[Cheesegrater]

At that point you'll be better off buying a rep and have the case reworked to original specs

so you’re saying the 3kf and ppf case/bracelet can be 1:1 modded to gen that you can’t even tell the difference with a gen next to it?

Then just get a gen movement?

 

[X24222]

so you’re saying the 3kf and ppf case/bracelet can be 1:1 modded to gen that you can’t even tell the difference with a gen next to it?

Then just get a gen movement?

There are modders that can get the case very nearly to 1:1 to gen. If you have the budgets (and it sounds like you do), would suggest doing this on the case, getting gen movement and crown and hands and then go from there on dial.

 

[Cheesegrater]

There are modders that can get the case very nearly to 1:1 to gen. If you have the budgets (and it sounds like you do), would suggest doing this on the case, getting gen movement and crown and hands and then go from there on dial.

Do you have any recommendations which modders can do this for a patek?
And I'm assuming this also goes for precious metal pieces?

 

[hurk]

I know someone

 

[RollyAP]

Do you have any recommendations which modders can do this for a patek?
And I'm assuming this also goes for precious metal pieces?

@AMF

 

[j21]

I see. I didn’t know.

I’m gonna think about my plans.

Is there such thing as a watchmaker that can make a 1:1 case and bracelet? Or is that also gonna cost more than a gen?

That unfortunately can't be done
There is available cnc case set in China wich accepts plug and play the gen movement , the bezel is pretty nice also(not so fat as 3kf), Ctime can source for sure

Otherwise you can try a 3kf or ppf modded case set with the inside to be machined also to accept the gen movement

 

[fall1n1]

No rep case and bracelet can ever be made 1:1 to gen. Closest I’ve seen is @Spongebob ‘s PPF base with 3kf movement. Fact of the matter is that no modder or factory is ever going to be able to make a rep exactly like a retail gen, and that’s not an indictment of the quality of reps, it’s just a fact that they’ll always be different in minute ways. That said, my advice would be to go with the following build given your budget

PPF v4 case and bracelet (SpongeBob can machine this to accept a gen movement and get the bezel close to gen spec)
Gen Dial
Buff hands relumed to match dial, rhodium plated
Gen Movement
Gen DW
Gen Crown

 

[madedo]

I know someone

whom do you know who can do a 1:1 gen case mod?
Which base does he use? 3kf or cnc case?
Which mods are done?

 

[grillbrill]

No rep case and bracelet can ever be made 1:1 to gen. Closest I’ve seen is @Spongebob ‘s PPF base with 3kf movement. Fact of the matter is that no modder or factory is ever going to be able to make a rep exactly like a retail gen, and that’s not an indictment of the quality of reps, it’s just a fact that they’ll always be different in minute ways. That said, my advice would be to go with the following build given your budget

PPF v4 case and bracelet (SpongeBob can machine this to accept a gen movement and get the bezel close to gen spec)
Gen Dial
Buff hands relumed to match dial, rhodium plated
Gen Movement
Gen DW
Gen Crown

@Cheesegrater, this above. You could also consider the latest CNC or the stock 3KF 5711 case to be modded.

 

[theREALgoat]

No rep case and bracelet can ever be made 1:1 to gen. Closest I’ve seen is @Spongebob ‘s PPF base with 3kf movement. Fact of the matter is that no modder or factory is ever going to be able to make a rep exactly like a retail gen, and that’s not an indictment of the quality of reps, it’s just a fact that they’ll always be different in minute ways. That said, my advice would be to go with the following build given your budget

PPF v4 case and bracelet (SpongeBob can machine this to accept a gen movement and get the bezel close to gen spec)
Gen Dial
Buff hands relumed to match dial, rhodium plated
Gen Movement
Gen DW
Gen Crown

You might as well go with gen hands at that point...

 

[Cheesegrater]

You might as well go with gen hands at that point...

How much are gen hands typically?

 

[Cheesegrater]

@Cheesegrater, this above. You could also consider the latest CNC or the stock 3KF 5711 case to be modded.

What’s the difference between cnc and modded 3kf / ppf case?

 

[theREALgoat]

How much are gen hands typically?

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[fall1n1]

You might as well go with gen hands at that point...

Tbh I feel like buff hands are really good but yeah if a set of matching dial and hands can be found for a good price that would be preferable of course. Imo the most “not worth it” part of this build has to be the gen movement. The 324 clone is perfectly good, especially with the engraving mod they’re now doing in china. The gen is better finished of course, but it’s by no means high horology and I wouldn’t pay ~15k for one when a clone is available

 

[theREALgoat]

Tbh I feel like buff hands are really good but yeah if a set of matching dial and hands can be found for a good price that would be preferable of course. Imo the most “not worth it” part of this build has to be the gen movement. The 324 clone is perfectly good, especially with the engraving mod they’re now doing in china. The gen is better finished of course, but it’s by no means high horology and I wouldn’t pay ~15k for one when a clone is available

I totally agree Buff hands look great, but if you're gonna use a gen movement better to use gen hands. The biggest flaw with the 3KF 324 SC is that it doesn't accept a genuine dial and the feet have to be cut

 

[Cheesegrater]

Tbh I feel like buff hands are really good but yeah if a set of matching dial and hands can be found for a good price that would be preferable of course. Imo the most “not worth it” part of this build has to be the gen movement. The 324 clone is perfectly good, especially with the engraving mod they’re now doing in china. The gen is better finished of course, but it’s by no means high horology and I wouldn’t pay ~15k for one when a clone is available

the movement is important to me since I originally really wanted the gen, so if I can come as close to gen as possible it'd be preferred.

I need to double check what the color of the gen hands are, I don't think they are white gold, looks darker.

So from what I gather:

Gen movement $15k
3KF / PPF case set or CNC made to 1:1
Bracelet is CNC also?

Dial I need to figure out.

That's it, right?

 

[eBoy]

Sounds like an ambitious project, I wish you the best of luck, looking forward to the photos of the finished product.

 

[grillbrill]

What’s the difference between cnc and modded 3kf / ppf case?

For your reference here is my modded 3KF 5711 case. Afaik the lugs of the CNC case don't have that deep bevelling (as per gen). Unfortunately I don't know more about the latest CNC case and I haven't had pics of it yet.