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Full Spec 5517 Mil-sub build on a budget

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It appears I have been bitten by the Sub bug, so I wanted to try my hand at a Milsub and see how well you can do one on a budget. No Viet parts, only parts from Raffles in this build. Not a lot of progress pics but I will describe my techniques in detail for those who wish to attempt this on their own.

The inspiration: ( the rare and elusive mil-sub)



The ingredients.

Raffles 5513 case set - new release from Him. Its different than the one I had bought at the end of last year The new cases come with a domed acrylic where my first case I got from him had a sapphire crystal , uni directional bezel function and more accurate crown guards.

The new case is closer to their 6538 case set offering but with thicc crown guards. So that was the first thing I tackled was shaping the crown guards and creating some space for the crown.. It is a bonus that they come with a domed acrylic. The case sides were also quite flat .
Its always nice not having to order parts from another vendor. especially at the shipping rates that Clarks is charging these days.

The tube was being stubborn so I just worked around it. I was able to get in there with some needle files and shave down the inside edges of the CG I feel I want to go a bit further with that and probably will.

The dial - The lume on the raffles option I ordered came with an aged lume that looked lemon yellow . Not to my liking so I painted over the lume with an acrylic white , and then tinted it to my liking with some air brush paints. I prefer more of a toasted almond to a lemon yellow. I also aged the hands to match The acrylic paint gives the lume a bit of texture of a vintage diver , I have noted a few things I would like to do differently on my next build but overall it looks good.

Since I have been dialing in my insert baking technique. I figured I try my hand at this one. (since I had a mil spec inserts ordered from TC on the way ) I wanted to push the limits a bit further with it to see what was past the point of dark chestnut and again I was pleasantly surprised with the outcome. I love the fade I am able to achieve and how it transitions from a dark to lighter tones. it gives a unique look and changes slightly at different angles and light. I will probably attempt this with the new insert as well. I think it will really pop and be very unique but something is to be said about a nice faded greyish insert on a milsub also. We shall see .

The big hurdle on building a mil sub has been the fixed bars. to address this issue I installed a set of 2mm spring bars and the soldered them into the case by filling in the lug holes. filed and polished them up. not bad for a first attempt. Next time I would probably use a solder with a higher silver content to see if that it can be polished up brighter to match the case, where as they are closer in appearance to the lug bar, which is not so bad. The proper way is to drill the lugs and insert a stainless rod. Maybe on the next one I will attempt it. overall pleased.




I also attempted the ref stamp on the underside of the lug. I missed the mark on the second 5 , so its not perfect but it looks age appropriate for a tool watch and a cool detail. Its rather tricky trying to work in the inside curve of the lug.
Raffles has milsub casebacks in stock so I had to pick one up as the icing on the cake.





Aged the case set with dings ,dents and scratches and did the final assembly.

My first attempt at a 5517 budget build. Overall I am pleased.

The khaki nato really compliments the lume and compliments the bezel color and really ties it all together. Its a bright and interesting watch on the wrist.















I also dig it on my aged medium brown and dark chestnut strap it really compliments the bezel









I will update when the TC Milspec insert arrives and I have aged it to my liking.
Overall this was a fun build I originally was planning build it and to sell on , but now I am not too sure. this one might be a keeper, dammit!

Thanks for looking As always questions and comments welcome.
 

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Ingredients:
Raffles 5513 case set with domed crystal
Raffles Mil-sub dial 29mm
Raffles Mil-sub hands eta
Eta 2824 clone - ghost date removed - 2 position setting lever swap
Raffles case back
Raffles Mil-sub insert - in transit
nato strap - CNS
 

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It appears I have been bitten by the Sub bug, so I wanted to try my hand at a Milsub and see how well you can do one on a budget. No Viet parts, only parts from Raffles in this build. Not a lot of progress pics but I will describe my techniques in detail for those who wish to attempt this on their own.

The inspiration: ( the rare and elusive mil-sub)



The ingredients.

Raffles 5513 case set - new release from Him. Its different than the one I had bought at the end of last year The new cases come with a domed acrylic where my first case I got from him had a sapphire crystal , uni directional bezel function and more accurate crown guards.

The new case is closer to their 6538 case set offering but with thicc crown guards. So that was the first thing I tackled was shaping the crown guards and creating some space for the crown.. It is a bonus that they come with a domed acrylic. The case sides were also quite flat .
Its always nice not having to order parts from another vendor. especially at the shipping rates that Clarks is charging these days.

The tube was being stubborn so I just worked around it. I was able to get in there with some needle files and shave down the inside edges of the CG I feel I want to go a bit further with that and probably will.

The dial - The lume on the raffles option I ordered came with an aged lume that looked lemon yellow . Not to my liking so I painted over the lume with an acrylic white , and then tinted it to my liking with some air brush paints. I prefer more of a toasted almond to a lemon yellow. I also aged the hands to match The acrylic paint gives the lume a bit of texture of a vintage diver , I have noted a few things I would like to do differently on my next build but overall it looks good.

Since I have been dialing in my insert baking technique. I figured I try my hand at this one. (since I had a mil spec inserts ordered from TC on the way ) I wanted to push the limits a bit further with it to see what was past the point of dark chestnut and again I was pleasantly surprised with the outcome. I love the fade I am able to achieve and how it transitions from a dark to lighter tones. it gives a unique look and changes slightly at different angles and light. I will probably attempt this with the new insert as well. I think it will really pop and be very unique but something is to be said about a nice faded greyish insert on a milsub also. We shall see .

The big hurdle on building a mil sub has been the fixed bars. to address this issue I installed a set of 2mm spring bars and the soldered them into the case by filling in the lug holes. filed and polished them up. not bad for a first attempt. Next time I would probably use a solder with a higher silver content to see if that it can be polished up brighter to match the case, where as they are closer in appearance to the lug bar, which is not so bad. The proper way is to drill the lugs and insert a stainless rod. Maybe on the next one I will attempt it. overall pleased.




I also attempted the ref stamp on the underside of the lug. I missed the mark on the second 5 , so its not perfect but it looks age appropriate for a tool watch and a cool detail. Its rather tricky trying to work in the inside curve of the lug.
Raffles has milsub casebacks in stock so I had to pick one up as the icing on the cake.





Aged the case set with dings ,dents and scratches and did the final assembly.

My first attempt at a 5517 budget build. Overall I am pleased.

The khaki nato really compliments the lume and compliments the bezel color and really ties it all together. Its a bright and interesting watch on the wrist.















I also dig it on my aged medium brown and dark chestnut strap it really compliments the bezel









I will update when the TC Milspec insert arrives and I have aged it to my liking.
Overall this was a fun build I originally was planning build it and to sell on , but now I am not too sure. this one might be a keeper, dammit!

Thanks for looking As always questions and comments welcome.
very interested by your insert baking recipe if not a trade secret 😀
 
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very interested by your insert baking recipe if not a trade secret 😀
Its a secret alight. I dont recall all the ingredients or amounts of the solution I use on the bezel during the process. l and I am not even sure how much of it is effective on the outcome but I can tell you I have to oven set to 400, timing by ear , checking it frequently
 
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Its a secret alight. I dont recall all the ingredients or amounts of the solution I use on the bezel during the process. l and I am not even sure how much of it is effective on the outcome but I can tell you I have to oven set to 400, timing by ear , checking it frequently
now you sound like my grandmother sharing not sharing her recipes 😂

"the oven just needs to be hot and then you come back when it's ready, and check often" she said
 

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I cant tell you how I do it, I can only do it for you. Its like asking an artist how he creates....it just happens. lol
 
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I cant tell you how I do it, I can only do it for you. Its like asking an artist how he creates....it just happens. lol
I know the feeling. I say the same to my friends when they come over for dinner 😅 and they ask for the recipe.

I have distracted from your thread enough. Again, the watch looks FABULOUS
 
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UPDATE :

Got the proper sized inserts from TC last week and finished the build.

quite happy with how it turned out. I originally build this milsub to sell but now I am not too sure lol damnit.

I suppose if someone wants it I would let it go, I can always build another one and the build is part of the fun!!

I am going to bake the insert to see if I can get some cool fade out of it.



 

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And since Raffles has taken a few days to get back to me on my order for a 1680 and 5513, I'm going to add this to my list of projects for the Winter.
I don't see the Milsub case back on their site, is it something you purchased separately, or is it just not listed?

And the bezel insert is from TC or Raffles? You mention both in the thread.

Thank you for the inspiration and damn you for the inspiration, lol.

;-)
 
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And since Raffles has taken a few days to get back to me on my order for a 1680 and 5513, I'm going to add this to my list of projects for the Winter.
I don't see the Milsub case back on their site, is it something you purchased separately, or is it just not listed?

And the bezel insert is from TC or Raffles? You mention both in the thread.

Thank you for the inspiration and damn you for the inspiration, lol.

;-)
the caseback is fromf rafflestime.
bezel insert is from TC although rafflestime does offer one as well

happy to help in every and all ways possible lol
 
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the caseback is fromf rafflestime.
bezel insert is from TC although rafflestime does offer one as well

happy to help in every and all ways possible lol
Awesome, thank you. Going to stick with all Raffles parts then, although if the insert isn't great, I can always swap in the TC.
 
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