First Order - PAM00389

[davelister]

QC Received on the substitute watch - a Luna Rossa 1404. GL as well. I also said I would still buy the 389 if it comes in.

 

[davelister]

Eliot replied today that the watch was shipped, but he hasn't received a tracking number from his logistics company yet.

 

[Art Vandelay]

 

[davelister]

Thanks Hol...

 

[Reaps]

I know you've had a bit of a rough ride but props to you for sticking it and not losing your shit. Very commendable. Hope the watch arrives safely and you can get it on wrist.

 

[davelister]

I know you've had a bit of a rough ride but props to you for sticking it and not losing your shit. Very commendable. Hope the watch arrives safely and you can get it on wrist.

Thanks. I came close a few times, but shit happens. I still want the 389, but I'm not holding out hope it will ever appear.
I'm more annoyed that I wasn't told about the issues beforehand.

 

[Reaps]

Thanks. I came close a few times, but shit happens. I still want the 389, but I'm not holding out hope it will ever appear.
I'm more annoyed that I wasn't told about the issues beforehand.

I waited 3 months for the arabic daydate. For the 389 PAM it actually is avaliable but I suggest using a dealer that takes a deposit and just being patient. VS has been horrible at delivering stuff that isn't popular lol.

Or hunting out M2M they appear once a while.

 

[davelister]

I waited 3 months for the arabic daydate. For the 389 PAM it actually is avaliable but I suggest using a dealer that takes a deposit and just being patient. VS has been horrible at delivering stuff that isn't popular lol.

Or hunting out M2M they appear once a while.

Were you aware beforehand it might take that long?

 

[Reaps]

Were you aware beforehand it might take that long?

No but thats what happens when it's nor a Rolex lol

 

[Reaps]

You are embarking on the replica journey and learning from experiences. If it's not a popular Rolex model and a niche model it could take longer.

I don't really trust any dealer on timeline. And you shouldn't either. It's the way the replica game is. Timelines are just estimates but when it's an illegal supply chain, these things are not guaranteed. Even dealers dont know when factories will deliver watches.

 

[davelister]

Fair enough. I'll respectfully bow to your experience, even if my professional and personal ethics would make me act completely differently if I were on the other side of the same situation.

 

[Reaps]

Fair enough. I'll respectfully bow to your experience, even if my professional and personal ethics would make me act completely differently if I were on the other side of the same situation.

I know it's hard but just remember it's illegal. Replace "replica watch" with "illegal drugs" and sometimes you can see how, even though being a professional and courteous businessman/dealer, things don't go your way.

Let me tell you a recent personal experience of mine, I ordered a VSF 1024 from my dealer (who is a non-TD).

• Okay, he told me it's out of stock.
• I checked with 5 other dealers, they said they could source it.
• So I go back to my dealer and tell him, look, other dealers say it's available to order, why can't you get it?
• He told me, "I can't get it, sorry"
• 3-4 weeks later, he pings me and tells me he can get it. I ask what changed,
• He told me, the VS agent he dealt with was arrested and he didn't have a connection to VS for that time, so he had to build a new agent relationship.

See what I mean? Behind the scenes, while dealers try their best, the illegal nature of the replica game makes it impossible. Dealers try their best with what they can get.

 

[davelister]

I've stated many times that I fully understand things can happen after the fact. I am entirely aware of this, and I have no illusions about it.

Maybe part of it is the language barrier between the buyers and the market sources. I would've reacted and handled it differently. I sometimes have issues remembering that not everyone thinks the same way I do (either for better or for worse) and that's my issue and no one else's.

 

[davelister]

Tracking was received and is now active as of this morning.

 

[guybythelake]

I know it's hard but just remember it's illegal. Replace "replica watch" with "illegal drugs" and sometimes you can see how, even though being a professional and courteous businessman/dealer, things don't go your way.

Let me tell you a recent personal experience of mine, I ordered a VSF 1024 from my dealer (who is a non-TD).

• Okay, he told me it's out of stock.
• I checked with 5 other dealers, they said they could source it.
• So I go back to my dealer and tell him, look, other dealers say it's available to order, why can't you get it?
• He told me, "I can't get it, sorry"
• 3-4 weeks later, he pings me and tells me he can get it. I ask what changed,
• He told me, the VS agent he dealt with was arrested and he didn't have a connection to VS for that time, so he had to build a new agent relationship.

See what I mean? Behind the scenes, while dealers try their best, the illegal nature of the replica game makes it impossible. Dealers try their best with what they can get.

So rather than telling you he didn't have access to his VSF connection he told you the watch was out of stock. That is lying.

While I would not buy from a non TD, I have bought from 4 different TDs untill I found the one works for me. Never had a QC more than a week and consistently delivering around a month. They have been honest about what he can and can not get. Not to mention very responsive to communication. So it is not a bad idea try different TDs to find the one works for you. They are not all same.

 

[Reaps]

So rather than telling you he didn't have access to his VSF connection he told you the watch was out of stock. That is lying.

While I would not buy from a non TD, I have bought from 4 different TDs untill I found the one works for me. Never had a QC more than a week and consistently delivering around a month. They have been honest about what he can and can not get. Not to mention very responsive to communication. So it is not a bad idea try different TDs to find the one works for you. They are not all same.

Eh I don't blame him. It's better than him saying it's in stock and then taking my money and waiting 6 weeks before getting it.

Things like that are fickle, Chinese dealers are about saving face. It's a white lie.

He's still my go to. I ordered over 15 from him alone. I don't even QC that hard because he knows I like my rehaut aligned. Lol

 

[davelister]

Eh I don't blame him. It's better than him saying it's in stock and then taking my money and waiting 6 weeks before getting it.

I feel personally attacked

 

[davelister]

Honestly, these photos don't do it justice. I'm floored, #humbled, #blessed and #ilearntmylessontotrustpeopleagain

 

[davelister]

It's funny, but after wearing my Watch Ultra for a while, this feels small!

Gonna have to decide if I'm going to keep it. I really still want the 389 and now I cannot wait to get one.
TY Eliot and all.

 

[john442]

looks great!