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Finally back on RWI and very soon on watchmaking - or not.

SuperRep

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Every now and then he goes to Mars , then when you least expect it he comes back :) :)
He said something about work being busy until he retires in mid December. Still... Would be good to stay in touch. He's had this project since March. I sure hope it's worth the wait 🫣
 

tripdog

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This member has once again disappeared and is ignoring people who sent him money, parts, watches etc.
He is also ignoring staff.
His forum permissions have now been revised and he has a Do Not Trade With Me banner under his name which means his access to M2M is restricted and he can only reply to existing PMs on RWI.
He has never been an authorized watchmaker or Supporting Vendor on RWI therefore anybody who sent him money/parts/watches did so of their own volition.
He has a website and and Instagram page where the name Polaire appears, but I'm not posting a link to either of those.
If he is not responding to emails, Whatsapp nor PM's then I suggest you attempt contacting him on his website - where his address and phone number are clearly visible.
 

Erect

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This member has once again disappeared and is ignoring people who sent him money, parts, watches etc.
He is also ignoring staff.
His forum permissions have now been revised and he has a Do Not Trade With Me banner under his name which means his access to M2M is restricted and he can only reply to existing PMs on RWI.
He has never been an authorized watchmaker or Supporting Vendor on RWI therefore anybody who sent him money/parts/watches did so of their own volition.
He has a website and and Instagram page where the name Polaire appears, but I'm not posting a link to either of those.
If he is not responding to emails, Whatsapp nor PM's then I suggest you attempt contacting him on his website - where his address and phone number are clearly visible.
Sad... this is definitely not doing him any good. It is odd, as in our last conversation he had big aspirations to fully dedicate his time to watchmaking and dial creation once his retirement age was reached. Allegedly making significant investments in equipment, learning the craft of pad printing dials and buying a pad printer, laser engraver etc...I wonder what's going on.
 

tripdog

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I wonder what's going on.

What usually goes on with these people. They get what is often unwarranted levels of praise on RWI and decide they don't need to honour their engagements with the people who gave them that praise, they spread their wings and fly off towards the horizon in the firm belief the entire world will be just as enthusiastic about their hobby level standards of work as RWI members were.
 

Erect

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What usually goes on with these people. They get what is often unwarranted levels of praise on RWI and decide they don't need to honour their engagements with the people who gave them that praise, they spread their wings and fly off towards the horizon in the firm belief the entire world will be just as enthusiastic about their hobby level standards of work as RWI members were.
Perhaps there is some truth in that, he did speak about restoring gen's... not sure though, don't know what is going on for a fact but it's plausible - and disappointing if true. Didn't even know he had a website, the domain was registered during his absence, it seems.

 
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Yes, I had worked out that his free time has been spent setting up his business, setting up a website etc and not dealing with the dozens of 'customer's' he has on RWI who have been ignored for months on end.
 

aphmars13

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I haven't seen anything new since September on his Instagram. Personally, I've got my parts back. I find it strange, he always took time to help me and then he disappeared.🤷 End of September.
 
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dpd3672

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FWIW, he did post that he had some health problems, IIRC (although I can't find specifics).

Not weighing in on one side or the other, but to his credit, he did add quite a bit to the body of knowledge for dial making, and I can personally vouch for his work as he did a great dial for me around the time I joined here.

I hope this gets sorted and everyone gets satisfaction.
 
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daytona4me

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FWIW, he did post that he had some health problems, IIRC (although I can't find specifics).

Not weighing in on one side or the other, but to his credit, he did add quite a bit to the body of knowledge for dial making, and I can personally vouch for his work as he did a great dial for me around the time I joined here.

I hope this gets sorted and everyone gets satisfaction.
The last 5 modders who got backed up and lost the ability to communicate except when taking new orders, all said they developed "health problems".

The latest one ........ health problems. They think it's a get out of jail free card.

Unless you are in the hospital, unconscious, and zero access to your cell phone, you have no excuse!

WHEN YOU TAKE PEOPLE'S MONEY OR PROPERTY, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS GREATER AND YOU ACCEPT THAT!
 

Dave2302

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I wish folks would pay me up front for their vehicle repairs, most of which are in depth electronic and technical issues that are here for months on end at times. Most have a few thousand outstanding on parts these days, by the time they are completed, all of which have to be paid for by me from sources we don't have accounts with !!

Even the trade accounts parts for more run of the mill jobs are often paid for long before the vehicle is finished and collected.

The flip side of that is I have very good motivation to get a job out as quickly as humanly and technically possible because it owes me money 🤣
 

matzemedia

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I had a very intensive and exciting time with @manodeoro over a year ago. We decided to create a project together. It was also meant to be a surprise here in the Vintage Forum. I took responsibility for the metalwork and Mondeo for the dial and the final assembly. It was great fun discussing the work with him and also doing my part of case creation. The components have now been with manodeoro since January 2024. Since then, the correspondence has almost fallen asleep. I have contacted manodeoro at regular intervals and tried to motivate him; most recently via pm, email and Instagram and unfortunately received no response. Mondeo is alive. He is at least active on Instagram; you can see that from his status.

I am a person who has a positive view of the world and also tries to see the good in the people opposite me. I'm finding that increasingly difficult now. I hope manodeoro is gentle enough and will at least send me the parts back, so that I can complete the project without his help and share our project. @manodeoro if you read this, please be so gentle and get in touch with me!
 

daytona4me

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The flip side of that is I have very good motivation to get a job out as quickly as humanly and technically possible because it owes me money 🤣

Crazy how that works, isn't it? Seems like a business concept that is as old as the sand in the Sahara
 
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Dave2302

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Seems like a business concept that is as old as the sand in the Sahara

I've got a good friend still lives down south with an old model Firebird, it's a bare rolling shell, I had it up here about 7 years ago and did all the welding, suspension, brakes. engine and transmission build etc etc.
He picked it all up and trailered it home, and then he took it to a paint shop in Sth London who took £6,000 off him up front for a complete bare metal respray.

That was 5 years ago, and they haven't even touched it yet. I know they are still there working away,
This guy is way too mild mannered for his own good, he's one of these guys that is scared of his own shadow.

I know these clowns, and they know me, I grew up with one of them. I know they will pay up if the right buttons are pushed !!
I've offered to go get his Car and his money back.

He doesn't want to get heavy handed, yet they are, to be quite frank, taking the piss. He will never get that car back.
 
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I've got a good friend still lives down south with an old model Firebird, it's a bare rolling shell, I had it up here about 7 years ago and did all the welding, suspension, brakes. engine and transmission build etc etc.
He picked it all up and trailered it home, and then he took it to a paint shop in Sth London who took £6,000 off him up front for a complete bare metal respray.

That was 5 years ago, and they haven't even touched it yet. I know they are still there working away,
This guy is way too mild mannered for his own good, he's one of these guys that is scared of his own shadow.

I know these clowns, and they know me, I grew up with one of them. I know they will pay up if the right buttons are pushed !!
I've offered to go get his Car and his money back.

He doesn't want to get heavy handed, yet they are, to be quite frank, taking the piss. He will never get that car back.
I would have been there 4 years and 10 months ago.
 
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Kawhy

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I had a very intensive and exciting time with @manodeoro over a year ago. We decided to create a project together. It was also meant to be a surprise here in the Vintage Forum. I took responsibility for the metalwork and Mondeo for the dial and the final assembly. It was great fun discussing the work with him and also doing my part of case creation. The components have now been with manodeoro since January 2024. Since then, the correspondence has almost fallen asleep. I have contacted manodeoro at regular intervals and tried to motivate him; most recently via pm, email and Instagram and unfortunately received no response. Mondeo is alive. He is at least active on Instagram; you can see that from his status.

I am a person who has a positive view of the world and also tries to see the good in the people opposite me. I'm finding that increasingly difficult now. I hope manodeoro is gentle enough and will at least send me the parts back, so that I can complete the project without his help and share our project. @manodeoro if you read this, please be so gentle and get in touch with me!

Man this is so sad to read. Really hope you get your work back mate
 

Karbon74

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I just like to update the thread. Today @manodeoro get back to me and will send me the parts next week. The reason for his absence is a sad - I don't want to go into detail here. If he wishes to share it, he will do so himself.

@manodeoro (and you too @matzemedia ) was one of the first modders I interacted with on RWI. In a way, you guys are the reason why I started to build watches

I am reassured to hear that there is no foul play and very sad to learn about such a difficult personal situation
 

SuperRep

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I just like to update the thread. Today @manodeoro get back to me and will send me the parts next week. The reason for his absence is a sad - I don't want to go into detail here. If he wishes to share it, he will do so himself.
Ok... But why isn't he just communicating with people directly?

He has his phone, he's active on social media, but is avoiding the forums.

Surely it's reasonable to expect some basic communication, even if his personal circumstances are bad.
 

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Guys, calm down please, lets show a little empathy towards fellow members.
It's now been confirmed that there is a new and previously undocumented virus wreaking havoc among the self taught replica watchmaker community.
It's unclear where the case zero originated but what is clear is the speed at which it can spread.
Until more is discovered about this virus, it is, for the time being called SOVED-24 - Sudden Onset Varying Excuses Disorder.
Symptoms include random and varying excuses as to why projects can't be completed and/or refunds issued for projects that are sometimes years behind schedule, often accompanied by a refusal to return peoples property.
There can be claims of personal illness given as the reason for the delays, but this can also manifest itself as an illness that works it's way through close family members in a illogical manner.
Those tested positive to the virus have been known to 'Ghost' customers, ignoring all forms of communications, including but not limited to emails, PM's, Whatsapp messages, Instagram DM's etc. Those tested positive have also been known to provide non-functioning tracking numbers to their customers.
Right now, there is no known cure, no vaccine that can fight this devastating virus.
We need to stay strong, united, until a cure is found or a new vaccine can be developed.
I know that in some countries, customers still waiting for news of their build project will, at 20:00 every evening, go to the balcony, or stand in their window of their home, and wave their empty watch storage boxes in the air, as a sign of solidarity with those affected by SOVED - 24.